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Old 08-28-2012, 02:16 AM   #1
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Compound turbo build and other updates

Ok, so I've been kicking around the idea of building a twin setup using the 66 I already have. I'm getting a spool flange for it, which I hope will make it spool pretty fast. Got a steed speed straight flange manifold, it puts the turbo pretty high up, I think if I move the heat exchanger there would be plenty of room for a primary under it.

Anyway, I'm wondering what would be a good primary to run? If I do this its gonna be kinda on a budget. I also want the overall boost to be as low as possible, as I don't have o-rings. I was thinking maybe a s475, 78, or 80 with the 96 turbine and 1.32 t6 housing. Not sure if I would need a gate or not?

Any input would be appreciated.
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:55 AM   #2
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With a 66, I'd say at least an 88 primary, but I'd prefer 94+. And you'll probably want to gate it.
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Ok, so I've been kicking around the idea of building a twin setup using the 66 I already have. I'm getting a spool flange for it, which I hope will make it spool pretty fast. Got a steed speed straight flange manifold, it puts the turbo pretty high up, I think if I move the heat exchanger there would be plenty of room for a primary under it.

Anyway, I'm wondering what would be a good primary to run? If I do this its gonna be kinda on a budget. I also want the overall boost to be as low as possible, as I don't have o-rings. I was thinking maybe a s475, 78, or 80 with the 96 turbine and 1.32 t6 housing. Not sure if I would need a gate or not?

Any input would be appreciated.
With the kind of air and power you're looking at I would bite the bullet and do studs and o-rings asap. Sure some have probably held that power without but I would expect they are the exception and not the rule.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:08 AM   #4
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Ok, so I've been kicking around the idea of building a twin setup using the 66 I already have. I'm getting a spool flange for it, which I hope will make it spool pretty fast. Got a steed speed straight flange manifold, it puts the turbo pretty high up, I think if I move the heat exchanger there would be plenty of room for a primary under it.

Anyway, I'm wondering what would be a good primary to run? If I do this its gonna be kinda on a budget. I also want the overall boost to be as low as possible, as I don't have o-rings. I was thinking maybe a s475, 78, or 80 with the 96 turbine and 1.32 t6 housing. Not sure if I would need a gate or not?

Any input would be appreciated.

For a 66 we use a 88 typically as the minimum. Some use 91's as well.
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Old 08-28-2012, 03:36 PM   #5
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Wow, I wasn't thinking of going any bigger than a 80. I still want it be kinda streetable. I've searched around and seen quite a few 66/80 setups. I just don't want it to be too laggy. What's y'alls opinions on using the 80/96/1.32? Is there a better option that would still spool good?


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Old 08-28-2012, 04:13 PM   #6
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The 66 is what's going to make it laggy IMO. Having a smaller primary won't really make it come one any faster, not in the way you're thinking anyways.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:23 PM   #7
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like mike said, your 66 will cause the lag. That 80 will not be big enough. If your determined to run an 80, maybe trade the 66 for a 62.
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that 66 is likely to spool faster than my current 62 does when you add the spool flange based on my experience with the spool flange and various chargers with and without the flange.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:11 PM   #9
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that 66 is likely to spool faster than my current 62 does when you add the spool flange based on my experience with the spool flange and various chargers with and without the flange.
Yes this is what I am hoping.

I don't understand why the 80 wouldn't be big enough. I'm not looking to make just tons of hp.


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Old 08-28-2012, 09:00 PM   #10
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Yes this is what I am hoping.

I don't understand why the 80 wouldn't be big enough. I'm not looking to make just tons of hp.


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I have the same setup on my CR and it runs fine spools fine.I am fixing to do thesame setup on my 12valve as well
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:50 PM   #12
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I have the same setup on my CR and it runs fine spools fine.I am fixing to do thesame setup on my 12valve as well
Are you running a gate?
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:21 AM   #13
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Are you running a gate?
nope i dont like gates
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What makes an 80mm primary too small to run with a 66/74?

Pleeeeeeease don't say "the 80mm compressor wheel".

The 80 moves what?....about 110-120#min?

Since the 66 doesn't add air, just compounds it...is it because it would actually pull the primaries output down too far, and not allow the 80 to flow efficiently?

I'm curious, and don't know, that's why I'm asking.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:24 PM   #15
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What makes an 80mm primary too small to run with a 66/74?

Pleeeeeeease don't say "the 80mm compressor wheel".

The 80 moves what?....about 110-120#min?

Since the 66 doesn't add air, just compounds it...is it because it would actually pull the primaries output down too far, and not allow the 80 to flow efficiently?

I'm curious, and don't know, that's why I'm asking.
i wonder as well cause mine drive perfect and spools fine 84solid psi
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From what I have. Seen through Dyno numbers. The 66/80 is a peaky set up. Is there a reason you don't want to go bigger the. 80?? The 66 determines spool as the big charger size determines the type of curve
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Not that it's too small, just that running that small a wheel leaves so much potential on the table with a secondary that big. If you're running an 80 primary, drop to a smaller secondary than a 66 and watch your spool get better.
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Like said above if your already in with a 66 might has well run something more than an 80 to get your best out of the set up. I.was just reading somebody was running a 66 wig an 80 and liked it. So its all on what your looking for I suppose
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From what I have. Seen through Dyno numbers. The 66/80 is a peaky set up. Is there a reason you don't want to go bigger the. 80?? The 66 determines spool as the big charger size determines the type of curve
the closer the turbos are together the more the curve will look like a single, thats what I have seen at least.
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So would like an 88 spool slower than the 80? Thats one of my concerns. I thought I read somewhere that a bigger primary will slow the overall spool. Price is also another thing. The new 480 is like $900, not sure what a 88+ is.

As for as going smaller than a 66, I'd like to keep it. I've got a lotta money tied up in this charger. Besides with a spool flange it should spool pretty quick.
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