Intercooler or not? - Competition Diesel.Com

Power · 03-01-2015, 09:45 AM

My buddies that have rat rods like mine with 12v say that I don't need intercooler.. I have a ebay 25x12x3 universal for mine... Do I need it or not?

96 12V
Fully tuned pump
4k gsk
Delivery valves
Rack plug
Dual feed fuel line
Kdp timing
7x12 injectors
62/58/14 s300
Ported head, studs, etc

I'm moving to tx n a few months so the weather will be hotter. Rig is 3000 lbs, just used to hot rod.

Mark Nixon · 03-01-2015, 09:59 AM

More fuel = hotter egts.
A more efficient turbo can help cool, but pushing more air usually means compressing more, which means you generate more heat.

What does it spike EGTs to, as it is now?

Mark.

Power · 03-01-2015, 10:06 AM

I haven't started yet... I'll be filling the fluids in the next wk and cranking it. I'm sure I can run without as there is a rat rod on here that has twins 700 us go and isn't running one... My little build can be without, however if that small intercooler I currently have works and doesn't restrict it then why not right?

Kick Start · 03-01-2015, 10:22 AM

Pics or it isn't real, even if it's on the internet.

biggy238 · 03-01-2015, 10:46 AM

You need to decide it you are going for maximum effort or not.

If you are just cruising and playing, no, it doesn't need it.

If you want to approach to top 20ish percent of what the engine can do for very long, it will improve longevity in that area of operation. Actually across the entire operation, but especially there.

Power · 03-01-2015, 12:09 PM

I'll get some pics when I can figure out to post them from my phone... I doubt I'll be going for bleeding edge effort. I'm just trying to be safe and make it a reliable hot rod.

Power · 03-01-2015, 12:13 PM

Without cab on

Power · 03-01-2015, 12:14 PM

Without hood

biggy238 · 03-01-2015, 12:32 PM

Early 30s cab?

Power · 03-01-2015, 12:40 PM

1936 http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...4&postcount=15

*Bodacious* · 03-01-2015, 12:51 PM

We ran a 12 valve last season with no intercooler. Granted, the longest the throttle pedal ever stayed fully down was 10 or so seconds.

We run a 13mm pump with a single S400 series turbo. I figure its making in the neighborhood of 600HP.

We ran a big nitrous kit on it a few times with stock marine pistons.

We drive to town on and off. With normal street driving/cruising, egt's were never a factor.

Power · 03-01-2015, 01:03 PM

This is what I have now http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant...ry_Code=IC30CO

Power · 03-03-2015, 08:21 PM

So do I use a flat stack, miter cut stack or flat stack with tractor style rain cap on it?

95cummins5.9 · 03-03-2015, 08:30 PM

single miter about half the way up the window in the back. 7-8". fukking thing is badass!

6 speed 90 · 03-03-2015, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95cummins5.9

single miter about half the way up the window in the back. 7-8". fukking thing is badass!

X2^

DDually · 03-03-2015, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95cummins5.9

single miter about half the way up the window in the back. 7-8". fukking thing is badass!

Because have spot covering the back of the cab constantly is awesome.

6 speed 90 · 03-03-2015, 10:26 PM

Well.... taller than that anyways

Power · 03-03-2015, 10:33 PM

4" stack just about the roof next to passenger pillar.

Power · 03-03-2015, 10:36 PM

My fuel tank is mounted there... I was planning on just doing a 90* right after the turbo on the passenger side then up the pillar just about the roof. I recessed the firewall in that spot to get the exhaust ran in this direction.

Power · 03-03-2015, 10:38 PM

image.jpgYou can see it here.

03-01-2015, 09:45 AM	#1
Power Name: Power Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 161	Intercooler or not? My buddies that have rat rods like mine with 12v say that I don't need intercooler.. I have a ebay 25x12x3 universal for mine... Do I need it or not? 96 12V Fully tuned pump 4k gsk Delivery valves Rack plug Dual feed fuel line Kdp timing 7x12 injectors 62/58/14 s300 Ported head, studs, etc I'm moving to tx n a few months so the weather will be hotter. Rig is 3000 lbs, just used to hot rod.

03-01-2015, 09:59 AM	#2
Mark Nixon Name: Mark Nixon Title: No Savior among the flesh Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brownville, Nebraska Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,676	More fuel = hotter egts. A more efficient turbo can help cool, but pushing more air usually means compressing more, which means you generate more heat. What does it spike EGTs to, as it is now? Mark. __________________ If you or I did business like the PEOPLE in government do business, we'd be put in jail. Government is coercive. Anarchy: The state of existence where there are no masters & no slaves. Therefore, Anarchy means the ABSENCE OF SLAVERY, or, in other words, FREEDOM.

03-01-2015, 10:22 AM	#4
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03-01-2015, 10:46 AM	#5
biggy238 Name: biggy238 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Just North of Wrong Member`s Gallery Posts: 10,869	You need to decide it you are going for maximum effort or not. If you are just cruising and playing, no, it doesn't need it. If you want to approach to top 20ish percent of what the engine can do for very long, it will improve longevity in that area of operation. Actually across the entire operation, but especially there. __________________ Check out @bdmaximusworx 05.5 Campanella White TDi Jetta 5spd 45.5MPG -Little Sexy '10 Silver F250 CCLB 4X4 6.4L cummins Swapped Insta @trash.panda250

03-01-2015, 12:32 PM	#9
biggy238 Name: biggy238 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Just North of Wrong Member`s Gallery Posts: 10,869	Early 30s cab? __________________ Check out @bdmaximusworx 05.5 Campanella White TDi Jetta 5spd 45.5MPG -Little Sexy '10 Silver F250 CCLB 4X4 6.4L cummins Swapped Insta @trash.panda250

03-01-2015, 10:06 AM	#3
Power Name: Power Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 161	I haven't started yet... I'll be filling the fluids in the next wk and cranking it. I'm sure I can run without as there is a rat rod on here that has twins 700 us go and isn't running one... My little build can be without, however if that small intercooler I currently have works and doesn't restrict it then why not right?

03-01-2015, 12:09 PM	#6
Power Name: Power Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 161	I'll get some pics when I can figure out to post them from my phone... I doubt I'll be going for bleeding edge effort. I'm just trying to be safe and make it a reliable hot rod.

03-01-2015, 12:40 PM	#10
Power Name: Power Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 161	1936 http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...4&postcount=15

03-01-2015, 12:51 PM	#11
Bodacious Name: Bodacious Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Weston, WV Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,177	We ran a 12 valve last season with no intercooler. Granted, the longest the throttle pedal ever stayed fully down was 10 or so seconds. We run a 13mm pump with a single S400 series turbo. I figure its making in the neighborhood of 600HP. We ran a big nitrous kit on it a few times with stock marine pistons. We drive to town on and off. With normal street driving/cruising, egt's were never a factor. __________________ "Careful who you argue with on the internet. Others might not know they are idiots."

03-01-2015, 01:03 PM	#12
Power Name: Power Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 161	This is what I have now http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant...ry_Code=IC30CO

03-03-2015, 08:30 PM	#14
95cummins5.9 Name: 95cummins5.9 Title: Old man *** gossiper Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: U.S.A Member`s Gallery Posts:** 4,720	single miter about half the way up the window in the back. 7-8". fukking thing is badass!

03-03-2015, 10:26 PM	#17
6 speed 90 Name: 6 speed 90 Title: Drunken hillbilly Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Davis IL Member`s Gallery Posts: 1,195	Well.... taller than that anyways __________________ Originally Posted byDISTURBED You all know the day the cr finally beats the dinosaur all these tickle by wire guys are going to look like a bunch of virgins on prom night busting their first nut! There won't be a dry keyboard in this place

03-03-2015, 10:33 PM	#18
Power Name: Power Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 161	4" stack just about the roof next to passenger pillar.

03-03-2015, 10:36 PM	#19
Power Name: Power Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 161	My fuel tank is mounted there... I was planning on just doing a 90* right after the turbo on the passenger side then up the pillar just about the roof. I recessed the firewall in that spot to get the exhaust ran in this direction.

03-03-2015, 10:38 PM	#20
Power Name: Power Title: Diesel Enthusiast Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Texas Member`s Gallery Posts: 161	image.jpgYou can see it here. Last edited by Power; 03-03-2015 at 10:39 PM.