1st Gen 1/2 Ton build? - Competition Diesel.Com

BigPapa · 12-19-2016, 09:35 PM

I just acquired a '92 Extended Cab that has some bad rust in the front corners of the roof. The passenger side is actually leaking water and there were flakes in the passenger seat when I picked it up. The driver side is rusted too but I think the fellow that painted it a few years back filled it, possibly with bondo, and it's not leaking.

I've been thinking about this trucks future and I really don't want to deal with the body work on the roof. I'm considering putting the engine, tranny, and rear axle in a 1985 D150 RC SB I found on Craiglist for a sweet little DD. What modifications will need to be made to the frame and suspension?

Mark Nixon · 12-19-2016, 09:48 PM

I will warn you that the engine will sit higher in the 1/2 ton, than in the 3/4 ton.
It's high enough that the shroud may not quite clear, and it will be noticeably tipped to the rear.
I did the conversion into a 1992 Ramcharger, with the same results.

Mark.

Dazed&Confused · 12-20-2016, 05:36 AM

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My engine sits in there just like factory did in the 93 I pulled it out of.

Got Smoke? · 12-20-2016, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dazed&Confused

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My engine sits in there just like factory did in the 93 I pulled it out of.

Here is who you need to talk to Scott, Andy is DD'n (for the most part) exactly what you want to build and he built it himself!

Andy, Scott is a good local friend of mine I'm sure you can help him out!

BigPapa · 12-20-2016, 08:42 AM

Excellent Andy. Looks like exactly what I need to know. You, too, Mark.

Merry Christmas!

Got Smoke? · 12-20-2016, 09:02 AM

Merry Christmas!

Dazed&Confused · 12-20-2016, 09:09 AM

I have a little more in-depth thread on 1stgen
Org

BigPapa · 12-20-2016, 09:28 AM

Thanks Andy. I'll check it out.

Mark Nixon · 12-20-2016, 10:12 AM

I just know what I saw on my 4wd Ramcharger, it was definite and hard to miss once you realized it.
Thinking back, I ended up using a 1 ton 4wd cross member (these have @ an additional 1" riser) to raise the back up.
The drop was still noticeable and I still had to shim the radiator up some to get the shroud on without the fan eating it.

I believe I read somewhere that Dodge used a different engine cross member on the 3/4 and 1 ton 4wds, due to the frame height in that area.

Realize, I AM speaking of 4wds in my assertions.

My old carhauler went right together with no height issues, but it was a 1 ton 2wd.
So did the 1974 1 ton I did back in 2005, which was 2wd, also.

Soooo, I may or may not be helping you, here.

Mark.

BigPapa · 12-20-2016, 11:37 AM

You're always helping, Mark. Thanks.

BigPapa · 12-21-2016, 03:16 PM

Hey Andy, I tried to register for 1stgen.org and it said they were going to send me an email but I haven't received one yet. You have any connections with the admin there?

Mark Nixon · 12-21-2016, 03:22 PM

Check Spam or Junk mail.

Mark.

Dazed&Confused · 12-21-2016, 03:36 PM

I'll let BC know did you use the same name?

Mark Nixon · 12-21-2016, 03:40 PM

Why even bother going there, anyway?
They chase all the decent people away, in favor of the clique-ish ones.

Mark.

Dazed&Confused · 12-21-2016, 04:56 PM

The only one who had left in the last couple of years was you Mark. There is tons of good info over there also.

Mark Nixon · 12-21-2016, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazed&Confused

The only one who had left in the last couple of years was you Mark. There is tons of good info over there also.

Great info, for sure, but lots of schmoozing up, too.
If that's your thing, have at it.

Thing of it is, I can't think of any ONE reason I have ever had to look for anything there, which is so strange, because I put a lot of it there.

Mark.

BigPapa · 12-21-2016, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazed&Confused

I'll let BC know did you use the same name?

Yes, BigPapa.

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Originally Posted by Mark Nixon

Why even bother going there, anyway?

I mainly wanted to look at Andy's build thread since he did the same thing I want to do with the same trucks. We'll see how it goes with anything else. And as far as that goes, CompD has a pretty bad web rep with all the drama most newbies go through but I like it here, too. Just sayin'.....

BigPapa · 01-02-2017, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazed&Confused

I'll let BC know did you use the same name?

Andy, I never did get an email from them.

BC847 · 01-02-2017, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPapa

Andy, I never did get an email from them.

You have a PM.

Dazed&Confused · 01-03-2017, 08:17 AM

Sorry Scott I got busy but it looks like BC has you taken care of.

12-19-2016, 09:35 PM	#1
BigPapa Name: BigPapa Title: Truckless Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,034	1st Gen 1/2 Ton build? I just acquired a '92 Extended Cab that has some bad rust in the front corners of the roof. The passenger side is actually leaking water and there were flakes in the passenger seat when I picked it up. The driver side is rusted too but I think the fellow that painted it a few years back filled it, possibly with bondo, and it's not leaking. I've been thinking about this trucks future and I really don't want to deal with the body work on the roof. I'm considering putting the engine, tranny, and rear axle in a 1985 D150 RC SB I found on Craiglist for a sweet little DD. What modifications will need to be made to the frame and suspension? __________________ Scott 2003 Avalanche Z71 Common sense is like deodorant. The people that need it most never use it.

12-19-2016, 09:48 PM	#2
Mark Nixon Name: Mark Nixon Title: No Savior among the flesh Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brownville, Nebraska Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,676	I will warn you that the engine will sit higher in the 1/2 ton, than in the 3/4 ton. It's high enough that the shroud may not quite clear, and it will be noticeably tipped to the rear. I did the conversion into a 1992 Ramcharger, with the same results. Mark. __________________ If you or I did business like the PEOPLE in government do business, we'd be put in jail. Government is coercive. Anarchy: The state of existence where there are no masters & no slaves. Therefore, Anarchy means the ABSENCE OF SLAVERY, or, in other words, FREEDOM.

12-20-2016, 05:36 AM	#3
Dazed&Confused Name: Dazed&Confused Title: Surfing my own world Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Morning View Kentucky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,533	Project ugly duckling - Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together My engine sits in there just like factory did in the 93 I pulled it out of. __________________ Big Andy 1983/93 Dodge short bed Cummins toy 2001 Excursion Fummins project. 2004 CTS-V

12-20-2016, 08:42 AM	#5
BigPapa Name: BigPapa Title: Truckless Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,034	Excellent Andy. Looks like exactly what I need to know. You, too, Mark. Merry Christmas! __________________ Scott 2003 Avalanche Z71 Common sense is like deodorant. The people that need it most never use it.

12-20-2016, 09:02 AM	#6
Got Smoke? Name: Got Smoke? Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gallatin,TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,728	Merry Christmas! __________________ Mark 2007 2500 Mega 68RFE FirePunk EFI/CSP5 & TCM tuning, Edge CTS II. 1997 2500 Jokerfab cyl head, PDR street cam, FDS benched pump, DFI 5x18's, HX35 63/67, FirePunk 47RE & anteater. 2003 Jetta TDI 5spd "DZL WGN" lot's of mods

12-20-2016, 09:09 AM	#7
Dazed&Confused Name: Dazed&Confused Title: Surfing my own world Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Morning View Kentucky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,533	I have a little more in-depth thread on 1stgen Org __________________ Big Andy 1983/93 Dodge short bed Cummins toy 2001 Excursion Fummins project. 2004 CTS-V

12-20-2016, 09:28 AM	#8
BigPapa Name: BigPapa Title: Truckless Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,034	Thanks Andy. I'll check it out. __________________ Scott 2003 Avalanche Z71 Common sense is like deodorant. The people that need it most never use it.

12-20-2016, 10:12 AM	#9
Mark Nixon Name: Mark Nixon Title: No Savior among the flesh Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brownville, Nebraska Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,676	I just know what I saw on my 4wd Ramcharger, it was definite and hard to miss once you realized it. Thinking back, I ended up using a 1 ton 4wd cross member (these have @ an additional 1" riser) to raise the back up. The drop was still noticeable and I still had to shim the radiator up some to get the shroud on without the fan eating it. I believe I read somewhere that Dodge used a different engine cross member on the 3/4 and 1 ton 4wds, due to the frame height in that area. Realize, I AM speaking of 4wds in my assertions. My old carhauler went right together with no height issues, but it was a 1 ton 2wd. So did the 1974 1 ton I did back in 2005, which was 2wd, also. Soooo, I may or may not be helping you, here. Mark. __________________ If you or I did business like the PEOPLE in government do business, we'd be put in jail. Government is coercive. Anarchy: The state of existence where there are no masters & no slaves. Therefore, Anarchy means the ABSENCE OF SLAVERY, or, in other words, FREEDOM.

12-20-2016, 11:37 AM	#10
BigPapa Name: BigPapa Title: Truckless Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,034	You're always helping, Mark. Thanks. __________________ Scott 2003 Avalanche Z71 Common sense is like deodorant. The people that need it most never use it.

12-21-2016, 03:16 PM	#11
BigPapa Name: BigPapa Title: Truckless Status: Not Here Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,034	Hey Andy, I tried to register for 1stgen.org and it said they were going to send me an email but I haven't received one yet. You have any connections with the admin there? __________________ Scott 2003 Avalanche Z71 Common sense is like deodorant. The people that need it most never use it.

12-21-2016, 03:22 PM	#12
Mark Nixon Name: Mark Nixon Title: No Savior among the flesh Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brownville, Nebraska Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,676	Check Spam or Junk mail. Mark. __________________ If you or I did business like the PEOPLE in government do business, we'd be put in jail. Government is coercive. Anarchy: The state of existence where there are no masters & no slaves. Therefore, Anarchy means the ABSENCE OF SLAVERY, or, in other words, FREEDOM.

12-21-2016, 03:36 PM	#13
Dazed&Confused Name: Dazed&Confused Title: Surfing my own world Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Morning View Kentucky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,533	I'll let BC know did you use the same name? __________________ Big Andy 1983/93 Dodge short bed Cummins toy 2001 Excursion Fummins project. 2004 CTS-V

12-21-2016, 03:40 PM	#14
Mark Nixon Name: Mark Nixon Title: No Savior among the flesh Status: Not Here Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brownville, Nebraska Member`s Gallery Posts: 8,676	Why even bother going there, anyway? They chase all the decent people away, in favor of the clique-ish ones. Mark. __________________ If you or I did business like the PEOPLE in government do business, we'd be put in jail. Government is coercive. Anarchy: The state of existence where there are no masters & no slaves. Therefore, Anarchy means the ABSENCE OF SLAVERY, or, in other words, FREEDOM.

12-21-2016, 04:56 PM	#15
Dazed&Confused Name: Dazed&Confused Title: Surfing my own world Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Morning View Kentucky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,533	The only one who had left in the last couple of years was you Mark. There is tons of good info over there also. __________________ Big Andy 1983/93 Dodge short bed Cummins toy 2001 Excursion Fummins project. 2004 CTS-V

01-03-2017, 08:17 AM	#20
Dazed&Confused Name: Dazed&Confused Title: Surfing my own world Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Morning View Kentucky Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,533	Sorry Scott I got busy but it looks like BC has you taken care of. __________________ Big Andy 1983/93 Dodge short bed Cummins toy 2001 Excursion Fummins project. 2004 CTS-V