My 12v project - Competition Diesel.Com

kasey200 · 12-15-2009, 08:50 AM

Well it all started when we had a 1997 12valve work truck go "belly up", or so they thought. I work for a general contractor as a project manager and this was one of our old work trucks. It sat outside in the rain and snow for a year and a half and one day they had it loaded up on a trailer and were ready to haul it in to the crusher for it's weight based value (this was before cash for clunkers. ha ha) Any way the boss man ended up giving me the truck for $200. Little do they know the only thing it needs is a fuel shut off solenoid!! You guys helped me diagnose the solenoid a while back to get it running and i don't think i've stopped tinkering with it since. The truck has 280,000 miles and it honestly runs like new! It's simply amazing. I added a 100 plate and gauges to the mix and it wasn't long till the clutch was unable to hold it together any more. This is what happened next.

:ba

I decided that while I was doing the clutch I might as well pull the motor and clean/reseal the whole thing since there wasn't a gasket or seal that held oil any more.

Then I decided that it would be fun to do a little tweaking while i had it apart. One thing leads to another!!

While my head was sent off to Snedge for a little machine work (who did a great job!) I worked on cleaning and painting. I also went throught the entire bottom end and checked tolerances and made sure everything was groovy. (to my suprise it was!)

Here's a list of stuff i have accomplished thus far:
-hx35 over S400 setup from source
-ARP hs
-o-ringed head from Mumau
-re-seal entire motor and painting parts as i go
-took care of KDP
-CLEAN and CLEAN some more
-New h20 pump
-60lb exhaust springs
-4K GSK
-5"exhaust from the s400 back
-Valair 13" Single disk rated for 600HP

There are a few others i'm sure but that's it for now. I will be updating this over the next few months as i progress. I am open for any constructive criticism you guys are willing to provide. This is a slow process as i am very busy at work and this is not a daily driver. Thanks guys!

gunracer1 · 12-15-2009, 09:02 AM

good luck on your input shaft

kasey200 · 12-15-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gunracer1

good luck on your input shaft

That's supposed to be on the list. like i said i probably forgot a few things

12valvetater · 12-15-2009, 09:16 AM

Don't try anything with that single disk mine welded after 800 miles. That's great that you saved this pickup from the crusher and the build looks real purty.

G1625S · 12-15-2009, 09:19 AM

Nice looking build! I'm thinking about sending my spare head to snedge to have it done up--I'm starting to use coolant out the tailpipe... What color did you paint the engine? Looks minty...

Got Smoke? · 12-15-2009, 09:34 AM

What particular S400 is that? Are you doing any work to the stock 35? I'm debating 35 or HE351 over S400 on my 99.

Red Sleeper · 12-15-2009, 08:37 PM

Its lookin good man. I like it.

Jim Fulmer · 12-15-2009, 08:52 PM

Nothing wrong with the build, add 4K's and a well tuned AFC and it will run like a mad dog.

Jim

coon smile · 12-15-2009, 08:54 PM

Looks good man.

Next time your company wants to send a truck to the crusher, please contact me!

stang789 · 12-16-2009, 01:37 AM

with allmost 280,000, i would pull the rods and pistons and hone the clylinders, install new rings and rods and mains.

kasey200 · 12-16-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by G1625S

Nice looking build! I'm thinking about sending my spare head to snedge to have it done up--I'm starting to use coolant out the tailpipe... What color did you paint the engine? Looks minty...

Engine is Grabber Green from duplicolor! Thanks for the compliments!

kasey200 · 12-16-2009, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Smoke?

What particular S400 is that? Are you doing any work to the stock 35? I'm debating 35 or HE351 over S400 on my 99.

I think it is a 75mm. Sorry for my ignorance. I am going to leave the 35 alone for right now. I Just rebuilt it for now.

Got Smoke? · 12-16-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kasey200

I think it is a 75mm. Sorry for my ignorance. I am going to leave the 35 alone for right now. I Just rebuilt it for now.

Where did you get your rebuild kit, how much, & what all was included? Any special tools needed?

kasey200 · 12-18-2009, 08:51 AM

Here's an update

Got Smoke? · 12-18-2009, 08:57 AM

Cool progress any info for my post above?

kasey200 · 12-18-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Smoke?

Cool progress any info for my post above?

Sorry i missed that one. I ordered the rebuild kit from our dealership. It included Journal bearings, thrust bearing, shaft locknut, seals and retaining rings ext.. Snapring pliers are probably the most specialized tool i used! Kit was $70 ish.. i don't remember for sure. it's been a while since i ordered it.

*Snedge* · 12-18-2009, 03:35 PM

Looking real good Kasey. Nice work. Keep us posted.

kasey200 · 12-18-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Snedge

Looking real good Kasey. Nice work. Keep us posted.

Thank you... hoping to have some free time to work on it this weekend and make some real progress.. we'll see though

ttcfan4476 · 12-19-2009, 06:43 AM

what year is it to me it looks like it has the 24v extra oil drain cast into the block for twins i thought only 24v had that

*Snedge* · 12-19-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ttcfan4476

what year is it to me it looks like it has the 24v extra oil drain cast into the block for twins i thought only 24v had that

You must have been reading what all the experts have to say on the internet.

12-15-2009, 08:50 AM	#1
kasey200 Name: kasey200 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rapid City, SD Member`s Gallery Posts: 877	My 12v project Well it all started when we had a 1997 12valve work truck go "belly up", or so they thought. I work for a general contractor as a project manager and this was one of our old work trucks. It sat outside in the rain and snow for a year and a half and one day they had it loaded up on a trailer and were ready to haul it in to the crusher for it's weight based value (this was before cash for clunkers. ha ha) Any way the boss man ended up giving me the truck for $200. Little do they know the only thing it needs is a fuel shut off solenoid!! You guys helped me diagnose the solenoid a while back to get it running and i don't think i've stopped tinkering with it since. The truck has 280,000 miles and it honestly runs like new! It's simply amazing. I added a 100 plate and gauges to the mix and it wasn't long till the clutch was unable to hold it together any more. This is what happened next. :ba I decided that while I was doing the clutch I might as well pull the motor and clean/reseal the whole thing since there wasn't a gasket or seal that held oil any more. Then I decided that it would be fun to do a little tweaking while i had it apart. One thing leads to another!! While my head was sent off to Snedge for a little machine work (who did a great job!) I worked on cleaning and painting. I also went throught the entire bottom end and checked tolerances and made sure everything was groovy. (to my suprise it was!) Here's a list of stuff i have accomplished thus far: -hx35 over S400 setup from source -ARP hs -o-ringed head from Mumau -re-seal entire motor and painting parts as i go -took care of KDP -CLEAN and CLEAN some more -New h20 pump -60lb exhaust springs -4K GSK -5"exhaust from the s400 back -Valair 13" Single disk rated for 600HP There are a few others i'm sure but that's it for now. I will be updating this over the next few months as i progress. I am open for any constructive criticism you guys are willing to provide. This is a slow process as i am very busy at work and this is not a daily driver. Thanks guys! __________________ 2003 Twin Turbo 5.9 Excursion

12-15-2009, 09:02 AM	#2
gunracer1 Name: gunracer1 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: just north of lake weatherford, tx Member`s Gallery Posts: 2,068	good luck on your input shaft __________________ 98 3500 4x4 quad 12v 5 speed,98 quad 4x4 12v stock sold, and a 95 reg cab getting triples.97 dually 4x4,6 speed over 500 rwhp, sold, 98 3/4 ton short bed reg cab, over 500 rwhp, sold. 98 quad 5 speed sold and the wife has a little dmax.

12-15-2009, 09:16 AM	#4
12valvetater Name: 12valvetater Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: St. Thomas, PA Member`s Gallery Posts: 464	Don't try anything with that single disk mine welded after 800 miles. That's great that you saved this pickup from the crusher and the build looks real purty. __________________ 97 12 valve 4x4 NV She ain't pretty but she puts out

12-15-2009, 09:19 AM	#5
G1625S Name: G1625S Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kirkwood, NY Member`s Gallery Posts: 340	Nice looking build! I'm thinking about sending my spare head to snedge to have it done up--I'm starting to use coolant out the tailpipe... What color did you paint the engine? Looks minty... __________________ f350 sitting in shop on blocks

12-15-2009, 08:37 PM	#7
Red Sleeper Name: Red Sleeper Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lone Star State Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,599	Its lookin good man. I like it. __________________ Nick J '14 Silverado LTZ 5.3 4wd '05 Cummins QCSB 4wd 48re '91 Cummins w350 5spd

12-15-2009, 09:34 AM	#6
Got Smoke? Name: Got Smoke? Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gallatin,TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,728	What particular S400 is that? Are you doing any work to the stock 35? I'm debating 35 or HE351 over S400 on my 99.

12-15-2009, 08:52 PM	#8
Jim Fulmer Name: Jim Fulmer Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: May 2006 Location: Quanah Tx. Member`s Gallery Posts: 5,013	Nothing wrong with the build, add 4K's and a well tuned AFC and it will run like a mad dog. Jim __________________ 01' 12V, S/B, Q/C, 4WD 98' 12V, S/B, Q/C, 2WD

12-15-2009, 08:54 PM	#9
coon smile Name: coon smile Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Eastern WV Member`s Gallery Posts: 3,399	Looks good man. Next time your company wants to send a truck to the crusher, please contact me! __________________ '06 Megacab 4x4

12-16-2009, 01:37 AM	#10
stang789 Name: stang789 Title: Green Behind the Ears Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: marseilles Member`s Gallery Posts: 94	with allmost 280,000, i would pull the rods and pistons and hone the clylinders, install new rings and rods and mains.

12-18-2009, 08:51 AM	#14
kasey200 Name: kasey200 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rapid City, SD Member`s Gallery Posts: 877	Here's an update __________________ 2003 Twin Turbo 5.9 Excursion

12-18-2009, 08:57 AM	#15
Got Smoke? Name: Got Smoke? Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gallatin,TN Member`s Gallery Posts: 4,728	Cool progress any info for my post above?

12-18-2009, 03:35 PM	#17
Snedge Name: Snedge Title: Comp Diesel Sponsor Status: Not Here Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Pa. Member`s Gallery Posts: 18,860	Looking real good Kasey. Nice work. Keep us posted.

12-19-2009, 06:43 AM	#19
ttcfan4476 Name: ttcfan4476 Title: Too Much Time Status: Not Here Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Iowa Member`s Gallery Posts: 432	what year is it to me it looks like it has the 24v extra oil drain cast into the block for twins i thought only 24v had that __________________ 2006 QCSB G56 Stock for now. Jeff Van