2.5 2012
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x MadMAX DIESEL
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I do remember that class and that was when pulling was at its best.. I miss goinn out and watching a class full like that. I think it will be a good class too, just really thing hanging weights should be allowed. Almost everyone can get weights, if not tube sand from Lowes or something else. I've been pulling this year wayy underweighted... 7500# and I dont complain about not being able to hang as much as the others. Just know I can go out and buy some more, I would rather spend money on some suitcase weights than fixing my driveline anyday.
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http://youtu.be/1ds6wgeGccw
Video from the FPE pull this weekend. Hooked 17 Stock turbo trucks and 18 2.5" trucks.
Caleb
Video from the FPE pull this weekend. Hooked 17 Stock turbo trucks and 18 2.5" trucks.
Caleb
Cummins Driver
THE Cummins Driver
Looked like a great pull. I assume that first cummins in work stock won the class?
Smoke
VP Puller Playin Catch-Up
It was at its best then. I can't believe I wasn't in that video. I hardly ever missed a pull for that class if I could make it, especially in that time frame. That is the perfect street style pulling class. I know I and a lot of other pullers ran to those pulls without trailers with all the weight in the bed, got there, dropped suspension stops, put in hitches, slung weight from the bed, hung it up front, pulled, did everything in reverse, and drove the truck home. I wouldn't do it now for the fact I have a trailer but the class was easy to get started in, as cheap as cheap could be to be competitive (obviously nothing pulling wise is very cheap), and was a blast. I don't know how many times I've shared weight with people back and forth to get them going or vise versa. This is not a class I want because "I can't hang in 2.6" so I want a class made for me". Granted, I can't hang, but that was my choice to not spend a damn fortune to do good enough to even enjoy myself in the 2.8", I mean 2.6" class. I was against the move when our organizations wanted to go from 2.5" to 2.6", and I still am today. The 2.5" class is what can be the "affodable" pulling class without being stuck to a piddly ass stock charger. The weights are going to be a necessity for most anyway, why not put them where you want them and without having to build a go to hell bumper to house them. A weight bar/bracket is not expensive or hard to build, especially compared to broken driveline costs. Can this class be run without weights, sure, so can 3.0". This class may be driven toward the "street" style trucks, but it is still a pulling class. Work stock is the entry level class for those that want to get started into pulling with no weights and such.
This class was very well known for having 20+ trucks per pull and very easily could be again.
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Cummins Driver
THE Cummins Driver
You really think they'll have WS, 2.5, 2.6 and 3.0 classes in KY? I can't see it but I guess they could try?
It'd give a few of the illegal WS guys to go play.
I haven't followed closely, is the 2.5 class suppose to remain a single CP3 class on the CR trucks?
As far as im concerned they could go with Work Stock, 2.5 and 3.0(or 2.8) . then you have 3 well divided classes and everyone in the 2.6 class currently can pull their bushing and jump to 2.8/3.0 . And as far as im concerned you could possibly even eliminate work stock and just run a 2.5 class if the class could be like it was in the video. Of course if it gets out of hand like the current 2.6, then the work stock would still be needed. Ultimately i think a work stock class would be nice to have in addition to the 2.5, but if the numbers were too low to justify 2 different classes, then just group them all into 2.5.
If someone were to go 2.5, I dont see a need for the current 2.6 class since they are all just bushing'd 2.8 and 3.0 chargers anyways. All the 2.6 guys have to do is pull their bushing and bam; they have a 2.8 truck. They dont even have to spend any extra money.
cumminstroked
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The last couple years around here the 2.6 has had the charger rule of no bushings, stepped, or tapered covers. Strictly 2.6" inducer, clipped wheel and protrusion so on and so forth
Cummins Driver
THE Cummins Driver
Thought so, that thing was moving. Ill have to say i was pulling for that old stock turbo sleeper flatbed 12 valve that sounded like it was turning about 4k rpm down the track till he popped his charger :rockwoot:
Smoke
VP Puller Playin Catch-Up
You really think they'll have WS, 2.5, 2.6 and 3.0 classes in KY? I can't see it but I guess they could try?
It'd give a few of the illegal WS guys to go play.
I haven't followed closely, is the 2.5 class suppose to remain a single CP3 class on the CR trucks?
Besides the class numbers looking closer together than in years past, what's the difference in hp spread? Majority of WS is claiming to make what, 550+hp on stock chargers? 2.6" is now at 1000+hp? Should there seriously not be a stepping stone in between these classes? Talk of this class being around 700 hp is ideally the perfect split. That is also in a range where the biggest part of these engines can remain reliable and competitive. The fact that the 2.6" is nothing short of surpassing the old 2.8" hp is because obviously there's very little that's 2.6" about the 2.6" class anymore. It's no secret what's been done to get it there, and the downhill spiral is going to continue from here on out because nobody is trying to do what was initially intended with the 2.6" class like is trying to be done with the 2.5" class. Keep it a "true" size limit class. The whole talk when we went 2.6" here was that, "Oh, this will make it easier for everybody that wants to get into the class because then they can go buy a 66mm off the shelf charger to get in the class and compete." All the while what was happening was everybody was getting set up to fail because of the stepped/contoured covers that were already in circulation trying to bypass the rule and chargers that were trying to be promoted because the rules weren't wrote against them yet. The 2.5" class being discussed has put it up plain and simple that there will be none of this allowed. How long will that last? Obviously as long as everybody agrees to not let it happen and quit saying, well, they're doing it, I will too. Policing of our own when we know good and well it isn't right is also something that has to happen. Back the techs decision, or even go against it if something isn't legit. Simple as that. This is the one class that has made it clear that the oversized chargers will not be welcomed from the get go whereas the 2.6" class rules are specifically wrote with a bigger than 2.6" charger in mind.
As far as the pumps go, I would think they would be limited to a single CP3.
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SmokeShow
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Eric, which 2.6 truck just has a bushing in it??? All I'm aware of are protrusion chargers like the rest of the world. LAST YEAR there weren't supposed to be hushed chargers either but the folks that own the series decided to allow them. They weren't much of a bushing either. More like a washer out at the front of the bell inlet that had a 2.64" hole in it.
This year the chargers aren't like that. They are just expensive to make em perform like the chargers last year.
Rodney, I wasn't meaning to say there's no place for 2.5 here. I was wondering if you all really think BOB &/or NKTPA will pick it up.
They'd be silly to do away with 2.6 though. Good grief, it's still the premier class around here.
This year the chargers aren't like that. They are just expensive to make em perform like the chargers last year.
Rodney, I wasn't meaning to say there's no place for 2.5 here. I was wondering if you all really think BOB &/or NKTPA will pick it up.
They'd be silly to do away with 2.6 though. Good grief, it's still the premier class around here.
Cummins Driver
THE Cummins Driver
Even if thats the case, buy a 2.8 comp wheel and cover and slap on it. They are large frame chargers and it would be cheap enough for anyone in 2.6 to bump to 2.8.
Yes 2.6 is the main class. So put all those trucks in 2.8 and make that the main class now... Heck everything is there but the compressor/cover. Spend $200 and let the engines make the power they could be making with that large frame turbo.
It doesent really matter to me how this is gone about as far as the rest of the classes are concerned; id just like to see a good 2.5 class back in order with some good rules in place and enforced.
MarkBroviak
Duramax Guy
The 2.5 class at the FLeece pull was won by Kyle Ehrich with his stock motor LB7 with an S363. The top 3 truck were with in inches of each other, doesn't get any better than that! This 2.5 class has been the most fun pulling in a long time. If we can keep this class black and white it will continue to grow and be great to watch.
Smoke
VP Puller Playin Catch-Up
If you don't allow hanging weights, you're forcing people to build some crazy ass bumper to hide weights under it or buy/build some sort of Ranch Hand bumper and fill it or modify it to house weights. What the hell is street about that? There's nothing street about pulling trucks down 300 ft of dirt with 40k lbs of dead weight behind you.... I guess you missed that. No matter how you look at it, this IS a pulling class. Not allowing hanging weights will force the stupidest bunch of money to be spent on these trucks to compensate for what could have been done a lot cheaper and easier with a weight bar/bracket.
And you're right for the most part. The true entry level class is WS with stock chargers, no hanging weight, etc. This should be a step or transition class but could be an entry level class for trucks that run on the street with bigger chargers than stock and allow them to get their foot into the pulling arena without taking a step back and going with a stock charger, or putting up their house as collateral to build a 2.6" truck. No matter how you view it though, it is a pulling class and hanging weights is the only rule missing to make it the perfect class for a huge range of people with no real class to get into. That and the dual wheel rule, but I think it's already been established, that's *bdh*.
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x MadMAX DIESEL
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Hell driving with weights on my truck is almost more streetable than the tires I run. I can't turn 1/4 of the wheel without rubbing like crazy.. not hanging weights puts rc trucks at a huge disadvantage compared to these new cc fords and dodges right off the bat.
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