And we should start leaving on an armdrop.
What a helpful post. Thanks for your input.
And yours.
Sounds much easier than a damn protree. Seems like kryptonite to an inexperienced racer. Maybe that's the reason some of us race keyboards and others set records.
Compd is full of keyboard racers........
More trucks win superstreet running 10.0-10.30 then 9's. Yes multiple trucks are capable of running 9 second passes, so far the only truck that has done it multiple times to win has been Max'd Out. Always remember this too, a 10.00 truck can beat a 9.75 truck to the stripes just by beating him off the tree.
Yes that is true but a 10.90 truck dosnt stand a chance against a 10.00 truck unless the 10.00 driver eats a sandwich at the tree. so the 10.90 trucks are a full 1.00 too fast for 11.90 index and they are a full 1.00 from being at the top of the super street class. this is a class with a 2.00 range which in drag racing might as well be a year. Our local track runs index classes on 1.00 seperation. 1.00 is fair imo because like you said .20-.30 can very easily be won or lost at the tree. 2.00 on the otherhand is absurd especialy when the seperation between the next two classes slower is only .10
if NHRDA dosnt adopt this class then its only hurting them because the 10.90 trucks will simply go somewhere else to race. i applaud Dennis for listening to the racers and being the first to actually put on this class.
it is a 8.5 hr 490 mile haul for me to indy and that is the closest nhrda event for me to go to. i will burn over $400 in fuel to make that race on top of the $50 membership and tickets and hotel and so on i think everyone gets the point. how many other trucks are out there that are not going to do that because they really dont have a class to race in? i know of 2-3 that are local to me that run high 10's that are not going for this very reason. if there was a 10.50 class they would go.
seems pretty odvious NHRDA's classes need some work.
its kinda like the movie....if you build it they will come
if NHRDA dosnt adopt the class the racers will not come imo
what class will you be running?
I'm a nobody really compared to some people on here but all you guys b****ing about wanting a 10.50 index because you don't want to run against a 9 sec trucks should think about attending more races. The only way a new class will be thought about is if truck count comes up. So stop complaining and show up to some the races.
I have traveled to Texas already this year for a race and have a lot more traveling to do. The closest race to me is Woodburn Oregon and Texas is the farthest.
Honestly you guys need to show up to the races already happening before things will change. If you don't like my opinion well so be it but that's how I feel.
seems there are a few trucks that run super street that really should just run pro street. i know that some of them do run both but seems to me that if a truck is running 9s it should be in pro street. why couldnt nhrda just put a "cap" on the super street class at 10.50?
Rob i dont mean anything bad toward you or your truck it is simply amazing what you are running with it. i am only saying that a truck as fast as yours can cause some guys with trucks that could go faster then 11.90 not to do it because if your going to go 11.80 you might as well go to the 9's because that's what it is going to take to win and that is such a big step that alot of guys simply do not have the means to do so.
i really like the class and had a blast running our truck in it at TS. a tuning issue had us only running low 11's but the truck has 10s in it easy but does not have 9s in it at this time.
we will be going to indy in a few weeks and here is our problem. even if i throw the other charger on the truck and get it dialed in it has at best a 10.30 in it on fuel. so we can either cut the fuel back and run 11.90s or do all that work and run mid to low 10s in a class with trucks that are capable of 9s.
here is my personal take on the nhrda class setup right now...
you have Sportsman which has a 12.0 index and a bracket tree, nothing really wrong with that class.
then you have Super Diesel which has a 11.90 index heads up???? whats the point of a class that is only 0.10 faster? the trucks are still in the same safty standards just add a drive shaft loop...why would anybody want to run in that class?
then there is Super Street which dosnt have an index so right now that class ranges anywhere from a 11.89 truck with no cage no fire suit nothing like that just daily driver trucks with driveshaft loops all the way down to a mid 9 truck that has to have a ton of safty equipment a certified chassis and driver. just imagine that race average joe in his daily driver vs a full blown race truck? tell me that makes sense.
then we get to Pro Street which again makes perfect sense just like Sportsman does.
the only index class offered doesnt really make sense to me being at 11.90 being that the only thing you have to have is loops? if a org was to go off of nhra safty breaking points then the index would be at 11.00 wouldnt it since thats where you need a rollcage? then the next break would be at 10.00 since you need a chassis cert to go any faster...10.50 falls right in the middle and gives the guys in the middle a class they can compete in.
ok i will get off my :soap: now, thats just my $.02 take it for what its worth :Cheer:
I'm a nobody really compared to some people on here but all you guys b****ing about wanting a 10.50 index because you don't want to run against a 9 sec trucks should think about attending more races. The only way a new class will be thought about is if truck count comes up. So stop complaining and show up to some the races.
I have traveled to Texas already this year for a race and have a lot more traveling to do. The closest race to me is Woodburn Oregon and Texas is the farthest.
Honestly you guys need to show up to the races already happening before things will change. If you don't like my opinion well so be it but that's how I feel.
I haven't seen this corrected and maybe I am reading it wrong but, the sportsman class to my knowledge is not an index class. it is strictly a bracket where you set your own dial. the cap of that class is 12.0 at which time you are bumped to super diesel. any truck 12.0 and slower can compete on equal grounds in sportman.