Compression results on ~500K mile motor

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While troubleshooting a reduction in power since late last year, I'm trying to eliminate any and every possibility and find out why. The Giles VE and 5x.013s made the truck an absolute monster! But power seemed to taper off after a few months, according to my butt dyno anyway. Unless I just so happened to get used to it so soon, which I kinda find hard to believe. Timing was checked and reset to a lesser advance as suggested by Giles (from 1.3mm to 1.2mm of plunger travel at TDC) and fuel inlet pressure backed down to 18-20psi, also suggested by Giles.

Back when I installed the pump, I swapped the factory tappet cover for a billet piece (without a filter element), I noticed excess blow-by when running 2,000-2,200RPM constantly over a 45-60min trip to my sister's place. Oil covered everything on the driverside from the firewall back. After that event, I plumbed the blow-by to a homemade canister filled with stainless steel mesh and with a breather filter clamped to the top of it to catch any vapors but that still wasn't enough. It seems to hold up fine on day-to-day drives to and from work though.

When I noticed the "power reduction" a while back, the motor had developed what sounded like an extra rattle which slowly seemed to turn into a light knock. At least, in my head anyway. I thought maybe I'm just paranoid. That's what prompted me to check the timing as described above. I also ran the overhead to eliminate anything. All of the rockers were at Cummins specs. with maybe 3 or 4 of them needing very slight adjustments.

Here's the kicker... I changed the oil near the end of this past February before heading out to a training class for work. Driving down the freeway I realized, "I don't hear that rattle/light knock anymore...." Sure enough, the oil broke down, as it does naturally. Rattle/light knock is back!

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I recently found out that a friend of mine has a compression tester set with the adapter for a 12v head. He gladly sent it my way so I could see just how healthy or unhealthy this ol' pig is. After driving around to get the motor up to operating temperature, I yanked all the injectors and cut the fuel supply (disconnected shutdown solenoid and tied the manual shutdown lever back) and ran a test on each cylinder while still warm. Temperatures were getting fairly cool once I got to #5 and #6. With an estimated 500k miles, I'm surprised at the results. Now what? :hehe:
 

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take seaid 500k motor out, have it rebuilt or do it your self to save the $ and drive ur truck 500k miles And repeat when needed? doesnt look that low on paper thought but blow by is blow by...time for rings at the least!
 
At 450k my truck has some blow by. It's was increased with timing and compounds. I found that adding another breather helped with the oily mess on the side of my truck. But as with any high milage vehicle, a rebuild is inevitable. I know it will have to happen someday, and I'm not to worried about it. Try a leakdown test like stated above. That should help calm your worries a bit, or give you a more definite answer.

As far a seat of the pants,,,,,, its fooled me more than once.and that's going both ways. Dyno results will tell the real story there too.


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Here's a good read.
 
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Definitely a good read. As much as I hate to ruin the clean look of the valve covers, I just might have to grab a couple of the dual covers with the filter element. Along with the homemade catch can, maybe it'll work well at trapping most of the vapors. My GF works for Cummins now... Should be able to get me 20%!
 
They don't look bad. Buddy of mine from case hooked me up. When I had the 727 and 285s is when I noticed the most blow by. Highways were the worst, screaming at 70 had the rpm up there.
 
I'll definitely paint them Hemi Orange to blend with the rest of the covers. In fact, the others could use a touch-up. My highway-speed R's aren't terrible at all. 3.55s, 235s and a 0.73 OD (6th) in the NV5600 does 2,000RPM at 73MPH and maybe 2,100RPM at 75MPH.

wish my girlfreind worked at cummins... i can barley get her to ride with me... lol

Mine loves my POS. She always imitates the shudder and shaking whenever I shut it off. I might have to keep her around for good now... :lolly:
 
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Leak down for sure, compression tells you if something is catastrophic. These motors are rated for 30,000 gallons of fuel do the math.
 
Time for a new one. Lol in my experience if they don't accept your hobby you'll either get out of it or she'll leave. *****ez :bang

When my wife and I started dating I took her on a trip to the foothills to have breakfast. Half way up there on a long grade, at about 70mph, the drone from my truck put her to sleep. I knew she was a keeper then. She goes to every diesel event she can, and is a huge supporter if my hobby. Even though she may not know much about it. I got a keeper.
 
I thought it strange as well but I let it crank at least 5 or 6 times allowing pressure to build and 400 is where they all seemed to settle. The adapter had a 26mm hold down nut and I only had a 26mm open-end wrench to tighten it with. Maybe they weren't quite tight enough. I much preferred to use a socket but I didn't have one that large. I was hoping it would be the same 24mm as the injector hold downs themselves.
 
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