Fishin2Deep4U
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Okay,
the 3rd gen brakes to a second gen has been completed. I have been taking it easy on the brakes to bed them in, but they are much better than before!
Here's a little show and tell for you guys.
Okay, what I am starting off with is an '02 Dodge Ram 2500 4X4. I have already added 17" third gen wheels. I would think most wheels that fit a 3rd gen would work for this swap. You MUST have proper clearance for the caliper. That means 17" or larger. And my disclaimer, Dodge didn't build this swap for my truck. I did. Any problems, loss of income or life, mutilation or embarrassment from having small rotors is on you. I am only showing you what I did, not telling you what to do.
And another important note. Safety! It should be your first concern for every step you take. Wear safety glasses, support your rig the right way and NEVER, EVER take chances or get under ANY component that is in the air. Work in a safe and orderly manner using the right tools, the right torque and the right choices.
Also, In many of the steps below I have omitted the cleaning I do and take for granted. Get several cans of brake clean, a wire brush or two and a drain pan. I actually rinse off everything before starting, while breaking down and even during reassembly. The last steps I take are washing down the rotor before the pads go on and then again before the wheel goes on. Just habit.
The list of components required are:
2000-2002 2nd gen front axle with factory dual piston calipers. 2000-2002. I am told some late model '99's also, but not confirmed.
17" or larger wheels.
3rd gen rotors. '03+
3rd gen caliper adapter brackets. '03+ Dodge part# 5093268 AA and 5093270 AA
3rd gen pads. '03+
I sourced all my parts through Vulcan Performance Supply. I chose Powerslot rotors, factory adapters and performance Friction pads.
The only 2nd gen component that is reused is the caliper. It has a different banjo bolt thread size to the 3rd gen, but is otherwise identical. The brake line input, the bleeder location, puck diameter and placement and mounting pin placement are the same as the 2000-2002 models.
This will work on all 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive models. (2000-2002)
Here's what I am starting out with.
And to get the project going, remove the tire/ wheel.
Next, you will need to remove any of the star lock washers on the lug bolts, if you still have them on there. I have found that a small screwdriver used to pry up the individual "locks" works well and allows for reuse.
Next, remove the caliper, pads and mounting bracket. In my case, I removed the caliper first and hung it from a coat hanger run through the shock tower. This keeps the brake line and ABS sensor lead safe.
Now, I am sure you are wondering what the real difference is in the caliper mounts. They are virtually identical except for minor machining differences and a greater offset for the caliper.
And finally, the rotor can come off.
That takes care of disassembly.
Dave
the 3rd gen brakes to a second gen has been completed. I have been taking it easy on the brakes to bed them in, but they are much better than before!
Here's a little show and tell for you guys.
Okay, what I am starting off with is an '02 Dodge Ram 2500 4X4. I have already added 17" third gen wheels. I would think most wheels that fit a 3rd gen would work for this swap. You MUST have proper clearance for the caliper. That means 17" or larger. And my disclaimer, Dodge didn't build this swap for my truck. I did. Any problems, loss of income or life, mutilation or embarrassment from having small rotors is on you. I am only showing you what I did, not telling you what to do.
And another important note. Safety! It should be your first concern for every step you take. Wear safety glasses, support your rig the right way and NEVER, EVER take chances or get under ANY component that is in the air. Work in a safe and orderly manner using the right tools, the right torque and the right choices.
Also, In many of the steps below I have omitted the cleaning I do and take for granted. Get several cans of brake clean, a wire brush or two and a drain pan. I actually rinse off everything before starting, while breaking down and even during reassembly. The last steps I take are washing down the rotor before the pads go on and then again before the wheel goes on. Just habit.
The list of components required are:
2000-2002 2nd gen front axle with factory dual piston calipers. 2000-2002. I am told some late model '99's also, but not confirmed.
17" or larger wheels.
3rd gen rotors. '03+
3rd gen caliper adapter brackets. '03+ Dodge part# 5093268 AA and 5093270 AA
3rd gen pads. '03+
I sourced all my parts through Vulcan Performance Supply. I chose Powerslot rotors, factory adapters and performance Friction pads.
The only 2nd gen component that is reused is the caliper. It has a different banjo bolt thread size to the 3rd gen, but is otherwise identical. The brake line input, the bleeder location, puck diameter and placement and mounting pin placement are the same as the 2000-2002 models.
This will work on all 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive models. (2000-2002)
Here's what I am starting out with.
And to get the project going, remove the tire/ wheel.
Next, you will need to remove any of the star lock washers on the lug bolts, if you still have them on there. I have found that a small screwdriver used to pry up the individual "locks" works well and allows for reuse.
Next, remove the caliper, pads and mounting bracket. In my case, I removed the caliper first and hung it from a coat hanger run through the shock tower. This keeps the brake line and ABS sensor lead safe.
Now, I am sure you are wondering what the real difference is in the caliper mounts. They are virtually identical except for minor machining differences and a greater offset for the caliper.
And finally, the rotor can come off.
That takes care of disassembly.
Dave