47re 2-3 shift flare

blacksmoke20

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well got my truck back together tonight everything is good except have a flare up on the 2nd to 3rd shift adjusted front band 72 in lb back of 1 and 3/4 and rear band 72 in lb back off 3 turns tv cable looks adjusted good what can cause this? thanks guys
 
no sir just revs up a few hundred rpm hits 3rd then goes other then the flare feels good do u think i got to much clearence in my direct drum
 
What did you change? New VB, apply lever? What is the clearance on the direct clutch?
 
My truck did the exact same thing... I adjusted the front band a bit tighter... only came out 1 full turn from bottomed out, problem solved... (I was recommended 1-1/8 turns)
 
here is the exact problem your having. I had the exact same thing happen on my trans, drove it like that for about a year and a half lol. i changed the valve body, adjusted both bands and changed the fluid with no luck. but that was before i found this info.

Got this word for word off Alldata under front servo operation, so im guessing replace the plunger if you can replace it alone. could have something to do with the apply lever also. you could also try what lanky said. but i bet the piston is cracked if these ones are plastic also like the accumulator piston is.

FRONT SERVO OPERATION
The application of the piston is accomplished by applying pressure between the two lands of the piston. The pressure acts against the larger lower land to push the piston downward, allowing the piston rod to extend though its guide against the apply lever. Release of the servo at the 2-3 upshift is accomplished by a combination of spring and line pressure, acting on the bottom of the larger land of the piston. The small piston is used to cushion the application of the band by bleeding oil through a small orifice in the larger piston. The release timing of the kickdown servo is very important to obtain a smooth but firm shift. The release has to be very quick, just as the front clutch application is taking place. Otherwise, engine runaway or a shift hesitation will occur. To accomplish this, the band retains its holding capacity until the front clutch is applied, giving a small amount of overlap between them.
 
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if you just did the shift kit what is you line pressure the pr valve may not be adjusted right I would not go much tighter than 1.75 turns on the band thats asking to burn it up. does you tv cable move as soon asyou move the throttle or is there a delay it should start moving at the same time and be all the way back at wide open
 
I have largely ignored all the flare shift threads...Until mine started doing recently...but only when it's cold out. Not that it's been warm out lately. LOL

Guess I need to give Goerend a call.
 
here is the exact problem your having. I had the exact same thing happen on my trans, drove it like that for about a year and a half lol. i changed the valve body, adjusted both bands and changed the fluid with no luck. but that was before i found this info.

Got this word for word off Alldata under front servo operation, so im guessing replace the plunger if you can replace it alone. could have something to do with the apply lever also. you could also try what lanky said. but i bet the piston is cracked if these ones are plastic also like the accumulator piston is.

FRONT SERVO OPERATION
The application of the piston is accomplished by applying pressure between the two lands of the piston. The pressure acts against the larger lower land to push the piston downward, allowing the piston rod to extend though its guide against the apply lever. Release of the servo at the 2-3 upshift is accomplished by a combination of spring and line pressure, acting on the bottom of the larger land of the piston. The small piston is used to cushion the application of the band by bleeding oil through a small orifice in the larger piston. The release timing of the kickdown servo is very important to obtain a smooth but firm shift. The release has to be very quick, just as the front clutch application is taking place. Otherwise, engine runaway or a shift hesitation will occur. To accomplish this, the band retains its holding capacity until the front clutch is applied, giving a small amount of overlap between them.

Did replacing the plastic plunger fix your issue?

Mine started doing this. I have an ats stage 5 48re in the truck that was put in way back in 2008. Going to do a line pressure test today,have adjusted bands twice with torque wrench and I know they are right. Replaced the gov press sensor and transducer too. If I find a cracked plastic piston/plunger or bad o ring, where is the best place to buy new parts?
 
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