APPS problems

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hey guys on my way home from TS i was in ohio and the cruise control was set for like 2hrs then i shut it off and went to acclerate again and nothing got off highway and truck would just idle.i got a cel so i hooked up smarty and it read p0121 so i cleared it and then it ran fine for about a half mile and it happend all over again so i cleared it again and got off highway to a gas station and unpluged comp and put smarty on 2 and got back on the road and made it home with no problems.when i got home i hooked up comp and unloaded smarty and drove it prolly 100mi and havent had a problem yet. i called a local cummins dealer and thet said it was dodge item so i called a dodge dealer and they had no clue wut its was put finally figured it out and said it was $565.00 and they couldent get one for over a month.the main reason why i want to replace it is that the pulls around here starte in a month and dont want it to puke out half way down the track and get nailed with the sled.any input would be great guys thanx.
Scott
 
I have a used one thats practically brand new of my 02 6spd truck I would sell ya... Put it on last year and decided to p-pump it this winter, so less than 5K miles I would say. PM me if your interested
 
Have you taken a reading at the PCM to see what the voltage is? It may not be the sensor but a wire or something else.




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RESETTING THE APPS SENSOR.
(ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR)
2ND GENERATION 24 VALVE TRUCKS ONLY.

LIST OF TOOLS NEEDED

DIGITAL VOLT METER
# 20 TORQUE BIT SOCKET
# 1 PHILLIPS
# 10 MM SOCKET

Proper service and repair procedures are vital to ensure personal safety of those performing the repairs. Standard safety procedures and precautions should be followed at all times to eliminate the personal injury or improper service, which could damage the vehicle or compromise its safety.
Although this material has been prepared with the intent to provide reliable information, no liability is assumed in reliance of this material.

It has come to my attention that a lot of people think by disconnecting & re-connecting the batteries and stepping on the throttle it is going to reset the apps, no, that is not correct. It is impossible to adjust your apps if you do not know where it is supposed to be set at. That is why you need the voltmeter.

This is the procedure I use to re-set the apps.

With the key on, engine off you need to probe the apps wire to see where your voltage is currently set at.
The best location to probe the wire is on the PCM (power control module) which is located off the passenger side of the firewall.

• You want the C1 connector, this is the connector closest to the engine,
• You want the orange wire with the dark blue tracer which is pin # 23
• Voltage should read somewhere around 0.5 volts,
• At this point the voltage reading does not matter, it just has to be accurately written down for later reference.

*** TURN THE IGNITION OFF ON THE TRUCK ***




Resetting the APPS Sensor cont. page 2
(Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor)
2nd generation 24 valve trucks only.

• The apps sensor is located slightly above and a little to the left of the injection pump.

• Remove the black plastic cover that is located by your injection pump.

The two screws that are holding it are plastic, do not put any downward pressure on them or you will never get them off.

• Un do the 6 - 10 mm headed bolts that hold the bracketry in place.
(DO NOT REMOVE THE CABLES)

You will notice the apps is on the back of the bracketry that you just removed, it is held in place by 2 - 20 bit screws. These screws have a little bit of locktite on them so make sure you have a good socket and gently give a little tap with a hammer before attempting to loosen. Be very careful these screws strip very easily and you only get one shot at them.

• On the apps you will find a white tag that gives you the information on what the apps adjustment should be.

• After loosening the screws you can rotate the apps both clockwise and counter clockwise to get the adjustment you need.

• The reading you took at the beginning of the process on pin # 23 should match the white tag on your apps, if not adjust accordingly.
 
Actually, JFlagg send me a link to it a while back and he found it on another post. But, you're welcome! :D I went through this B.S. a while back and had to put on a different APPS. If you have a way to view "throttle %", you can see where the APPS faults. Mine would run up to about 18% on the highway then bounce around. I can read it with my attitude or my Murphy gauge.
 
my bets are on a crapped out VP. do the key on, off 3times and read the ECU codes off the odometer instead of the smarty.

Lavon
 
my bets are on a crapped out VP. do the key on, off 3times and read the ECU codes off the odometer instead of the smarty.

Lavon

i did cycle the key when i was broke down and got the same codes that smarty did.
 
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