Borgeson Box on a 2004

[Red Sleeper]

So here is the skinny.
Bought a Borgeson box and pitman arm (pn:800116) for my dad's 04 4wd Dodge. This truck is stock ride height, stock steering, stock everything except for a tuner on the enging and 285/70R17 tires.

Biggest problem is the pitman arm they provide. With the front axle level on jack stands, no load on the steering, all linkage hooked up, I can turn full lock to the passenger side. When I try to go from center to driver side it starts to bind.
Turns out the drag link knuckle that bolts to the pitman arm is out of travel and binding because of the angle on the pitman arm. My drag link knuckle binds
I've tried adjusting the drag link to accommodate for the difference in angle but it binds no matter what..

The pitman arm Borgeson provided is definately different than the factory pitman arm. It looks similar to the 08+ pitman arms.

Anyone else have this run in with these pitman arms???
I've been emailing and on the phone with Borgeson on and off for a month now trying to figure this out. All I'm told is it should work, we don't see anything wrong. We sell hundreds of them....

 

[Red Sleeper]

The shiny pitman arm is the new one provided by Borgeson.

New Borgeson steering box at full lock turning wheels to the driver side.

 

[zeigler86]

Is the hole tapered or does it take one of the inserts like some aftermarket pitman arms do to flip the drag link end upside down?

 

[zeigler86]

I'll post pics in am of what I mean

 

[Red Sleeper]

The hole in the pitman arm definitely has an A-taper hole drilled in it. No sleeve like you're talking about.

 

[nibrandon]

That new pitman arm looks just like the 08.5+ arm I just put on my truck with the new T style steering. If you still have the old Y style steering (pre 08.5) that might be why you're binding. Can you use the pitman arm off the old stock dodge box and see if it fixes it? Is it interchangable w/ the Borgeson box?

 

[Red Sleeper]

Nope. Not interchangeable. The sector shaft on the new Borgeson box has different splines than the OEM dodge box.

I agree with you that it's the 08.5+ arm for the T style steering. But Borgeson doesn't seem to think so.. Pisses me off that I buy a $600 gear box from a reputable company and it wont bolt up nor will they make it right.... Yet.

 

[Tobin]

Is it anything like this box:

http://www.dieselpowerproducts.com//p-8165-mopar-steering-box-upgrade-kit-03-08-ram-hd-68170214aa.aspx?gclid=CMnLiIzg5r0CFc1j7AodE0wA8A

I put one on my truck and love it.