Fuel Cell Size.....

LOGANSTANFORTH

LOGANSTANFORTH

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Track only 2.6 truck......at the most it will be doing is 3 full runs plus idling around the pits and loading and unloading.....truck will never see the street except to go out and run up and down in front of the house when working on the engine.......I am looking at the 3-5 gallon range in the upright dragster style so i can mount it inside the weight box i have designed.....another question, should i use foam in it or not, since the foam will take up some of the capacity......the pickup/return sumps are at the bottom.....I will run an A1000 Aeromotive pump most likely and mount it inside the box as close as possible to the tank, the filters will be outside for ease of changing.....

this is the one i really like......plus its got -10 fittings.....
JEGS 15305

RCI has some plastic ones but I like the look of the aluminum ones alot better, they look alot more professional.....plus this one is small enough that later on i can add a second one for water injection if i ever step up to the 3.0 class....
 
06 DIESEL said:
Not many 2.6 classes allow a fuel cell iirc.
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define the difference between a cell and a tank......one have foam and one dosent......if need be ill find a tiny "stock" tank from a small truck and put it in the stock location......

Phil almost all 2.6 classes allow hanging weights, stock turbo/stock appearing/work stock usually dosent.....
 
I have a 4 gallon unit from Summit with the foam.

It came with some packaging that looked a lot like the web site info from RCI. So I called RCI and they said their foam was fine with diesel and gas but tended to fragment when used with 100% methanol. So you might want to run a screen filter before your lift pump just in case.

4 gallons is juuuust enough but doesn't leave much room for error. I have filled it almost full, made 2 passes down the track, spent normal time in line idling, etc., and have trailered it home and almost run out of fuel unloading in the driveway, no fuel visible above the foam. I can hear it coming...my lift pump starts sounding all wonky.

So if you want to use a really small cell, make sure you have a fuel can handy.

Otherwise I'm happy with it.
 
LOGANSTANFORTH said:
define the difference between a cell and a tank......one have foam and one dosent......if need be ill find a tiny "stock" tank from a small truck and put it in the stock location......

Phil almost all 2.6 classes allow hanging weights, stock turbo/stock appearing/work stock usually dosent.....
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there was major discussion of this before TS...fuel cells not allowed in the 2.6 or 2.8 STREET classes. its crazy but thats how the rules were.

i heard that the tank from a ford ranger works well as a replacement to the stock tank
 
ya why would it matter if you run a fuel cell, its not like that means it cant be driven on the road.
 
I have an 8 gallon with foam.. And everynight before I pull out it of the house it holds 3 gallons if I ran it the night before. I usally just unload it when I get there, build heat into the motor and shut it off and it doesnt get ran again until they call to line up and I shut it off ever chance I get while I am in line. Just something to think about.
 
I have a 10 gal. cell in the bed of my truck and wouldn't want it any smaller. I can go to a few hooks with out having to lug around a fuel can.
 
getblown5.9 said:
there was major discussion of this before TS...fuel cells not allowed in the 2.6 or 2.8 STREET classes. its crazy but thats how the rules were.

i heard that the tank from a ford ranger works well as a replacement to the stock tank
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i may have to look into the ford ranger idea......but i would like to know what they consider a fuel cell and what they consider a tank.....a boat tank is a fuel tank, not a cell, so technically i could use that right..............


and I just wont pull at TS......doubt we will have to worry about it next year anyways......what does NADM and the rest feel about the fuel cell idea, im going to assume its legal????
 
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"Read the rule; don't read into the rule."

If the rules don't specifically outlaw a fuel cell, on what basis can you DQ a truck if it has one?

Just make sure you can complete the road test if you're trying to run NADM 2.6 for example.

IIRC the old DHRA rules in some of the classes specifically required an OEM fuel tank. That has since been removed from NADM 2.6" and 2.8" but remains in work stock.
 
nwpadmax said:
"Read the rule; don't read into the rule."

If the rules don't specifically outlaw a fuel cell, on what basis can you DQ a truck if it has one?

Just make sure you can complete the road test if you're trying to run NADM 2.6 for example.

IIRC the old DHRA rules in some of the classes specifically required an OEM fuel tank. That has since been removed from NADM 2.6" and 2.8" but remains in work stock.
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ive asked several questions pertaining to this and other stuff that isnt specifically stated in the rules (like 12 inch wide front wheels with dually centers im going to build so i can run duals on the rear and still be legal per the rules) and there is never a cut and dried answer, i was a tech inspector for a dirt track for several years and i learned quickly to look and question everything but what the rule actually says.......says you cant run a fuel cell, thats fine, but they dont state exactly what type of tank though, factory, aftermarket, small, or big........

I never seen anything about a road test, ill have to look that up......
 
Honestly, if the rules do not specifically prevent a fuel cell, then I'd run it. If people scream and holler because you're killing them and it's all because of the fuel cell :hehe: then put it to the sanctioning body and let them deal with it.

If you run one and do a nice job with the install, I bet no one says anything. Personally, I'd put a filler neck on it to show a good faith effort in being streetable. If you have to crawl under the truck and fill it with a mason jar, then I could see where the masses would probably frown on it and eventually get pissed enough to change the rule.
 
nwpadmax said:
Honestly, if the rules do not specifically prevent a fuel cell, then I'd run it. If people scream and holler because you're killing them and it's all because of the fuel cell :hehe: then put it to the sanctioning body and let them deal with it.

If you run one and do a nice job with the install, I bet no one says anything. Personally, I'd put a filler neck on it to show a good faith effort in being streetable. If you have to crawl under the truck and fill it with a mason jar, then I could see where the masses would probably frown on it and eventually get pissed enough to change the rule.
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if i used a small "factory" tank then i will set it up like factory under the bed with a filler neck, but if i use a fuel cell its going in my weight box.....sucks NADM wont let you run your batteries forward of the core support though.....make it so much easier to work on and charge......

i doubt i will be running with NADM much though so i figure ill just build it like i want and be done with it......weight, batteries, and fuel cell all in the weight box, and yes, they will all be seperated from each other and every effort will be made to keep from causing a fire........

it really sucks being away from home 11 months out of the year and trying to build this thing......Ive had the truck over a year and have only drove it 15 feet.......
 
NOW on to the fuel system since i have decided im just going to run the fuel cell......I'm thinking about the A2000 Aeromotive pump because everything is there, the return, pressure port, adjustable internal regulator and the pump all in one and the price isnt bad, i just have to check and see if it will work with diesel though, its got -10 fittings also, the filter will just be a single F/S unit from Perma-Cool with 3/4 inch pipe fittings, and all Jeg's -10 Push-Loc hose will be used......I'll have about 800 in everything (less most likely).......and that includes 140 for a 5 gallon aluminum fuel cell.......

ONE 15315 - 5 Gallon JEGS Aluminum Fuel Cell 140.00
ONE 771-88864 - Perma-Cool Fuel Filter 43.00
ONE 027-11202 - Aeromotive A2000 Fuel Pump 346.00
ONE 555-102234 – JEGS Push-Loc Hose -10 25Ft. 80.00
ONE 555-102220 – JEGS Push-Loc Hose -8 5Ft. 15.00
TWO 555-82038 – JEGS Stainless Steel Cushion Clamps 20.00
VARIOUS FITTINGS AND MISCELLANEOUS PARTS 150.00

The -10 fuel fittings alone are 14-17 bucks a piece......
 
How are you going to setup your return.. are you going to run another regulator on the return?? or just an orfice... going to be building about the same setup soon..
Thanks,
Bryan
 
JDGnut said:
How are you going to setup your return.. are you going to run another regulator on the return?? or just an orfice... going to be building about the same setup soon..
Thanks,
Bryan
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the return coming back from the regulator???

im not following.....
 
Sorry.. the return from the injection pump.. if the regulator is built into the electric pump... that will set the pressure to the injection pump.. but what about the return line for the injection pump...
 
JDGnut said:
Sorry.. the return from the injection pump.. if the regulator is built into the electric pump... that will set the pressure to the injection pump.. but what about the return line for the injection pump...
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I'm going to use the A1000 with an external regulator, the A2000 dosent carry enough pressure........
 
Sounds good.. that's what we are going to use.. A1000... thought you had found something better with the A2000...
 
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