headgasket and oil pan

tony597fitter

tony597fitter

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Can you drop the oil pan if the cylinder head is off?
I know there isn't enough room to drop the oil pan with head still on.
 
We took the pan off my friends 95 to install a second oil drain for twins with the head still on. I forget how we jacked the motor up though.:bang
 
Unbolt cab jack cab up an couple inches then you can lift motor enough to get pan on and off.
 
I put a chain on the front lift plate, removed the fan shroud bolts, loosened the engine mount bolts and jacked up the motor and got the pan off. If you have the head off, you will have plenty of room. Another thing you can do, raise the front of the truck up and put some jackstands on the frame, below the cab doors. Then remove the front wheels and let the front axle droop.
 
did it on my 95, loosen engine mounts, take fan off and jack it up till it touches the cowl.
 
It's not really that hard to pull the motor and while you have it out a retorque on The head is super easy as well as the tappet gasket I'd rather pull the engine than the tranny
 
Heres how Im fixing that problem,Bolt in xmember. not finished yet but its cut.
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Man I wouldn't have cut that not in a street truck n e way it will flex no matter how stiff you try to make it and it is so easy just to pull the engine which you've already done how many oil Pan gaskets do you plan on having to change? The fab work alone is quite time consuming
But to each his own
 
edmeyers said:
Man I wouldn't have cut that not in a street truck n e way it will flex no matter how stiff you try to make it and it is so easy just to pull the engine which you've already done how many oil Pan gaskets do you plan on having to change? The fab work alone is quite time consuming
But to each his own
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So its going to flex ? I cut it so its easier to put it in and out (straight in)fab work 4hrs not as bad as it looks.
 
edmeyers said:
Man I wouldn't have cut that not in a street truck n e way it will flex no matter how stiff you try to make it and it is so easy just to pull the engine which you've already done how many oil Pan gaskets do you plan on having to change? The fab work alone is quite time consuming
But to each his own
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It's not real hard to out-engineer those flimsy stock cross members, so no, flex won't be an issue anymore than it was before. I think some people are missing the point for the drop-out cross member. Not replacing oil pans, but wouldn't it be nice to refresh that high hp engine every year without having to pull it! I see tons of reasons to build a drop-out cross member, just wish I had done this before I installed my Cummins in my Ford. Might do it this weekend!
 
Let's see...pull engine, 4 hours going easy, 5 putting it back in.

Or roll around under, on top, scratching my paint, trying to jack around and in-frame a truck that wasn't designed for it??

I'm pulling the engine, putting it on a stand, and rebuilding it the right way, but that's probably just me??

Chris

And before anyone asks, yes I've done it. Started building a 5.9 from a bare block at 2:30 on Tuesday, head was on in the truck at midnight when I went to bed, back up at 7AM, and the truck was on it's way out of my shop to the new owners house by 8:30 that evening. The twins gave us some trouble getting the downpipe back on, and I got the wrong thermostat from Cummins that took a couple hours to get to stop leaking as well.
 
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Yea only reason to drop the pan is for inspection. Of course buy a nice inspection type filter and/or use oil analysis and do the same.
 
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