Need HELP - Advice on Output Shaft

Status
Not open for further replies.
N

nate

New member
Joined
Apr 6, 2008
Messages
751
I have a built transmission in my truck. Billet convertor, Opie input shaft, 48RE planetaries, added clutches were possible, etc.

The intermediate and output shafts are stock.

This weekend I went out to the dragstrip and I ended up breaking the output shaft. I was doing a 4x4 launch, about 10 psi boost and BOOM :(

The truck isn't too wild, I have Mach 4 injectors, 62/12 turbo and a Smarty/TST stack. I don't plan on doing much more to the truck as it needs to be reliable to tow.



Now, I'm trying to figure out what I should do.

Should I put a billet output shaft and probably move the weak point to the intermediate?
Should I just replace the output shaft with another stocker, leaving that as the weak link?

The best answer would be to upgrade both the intermediate and output shafts, but I don't have the time or money to do that.
 
Call Dave Goerend, he is working on some new intermediates, not sure on the pricing though.
 
I can get an intermediate from Opie, but I don't have the time or $$ right now.

I'm kinda thinking of just putting a stocker back in and not drag racing the truck.
 
put a stocker back in and hope for the best.... I put over 105 1/4mi. passes on my stock output and it never broke.... I pulled a few dozen 1.67 60' times with it as well in a full weight truck. I did however put a billet one in when I could afford it cause I new I was pushing my luck...

I just helped a friend swap his broken output last week and it took 1.5hrs out and 2hrs back in and we took the overdrive housing and other stock output to a local trans shop and they changed it for $35.

Lavon
 
nate said:
I have a built transmission in my truck. Billet convertor, Opie input shaft, 48RE planetaries, added clutches were possible, etc.

The intermediate and output shafts are stock.

This weekend I went out to the dragstrip and I ended up breaking the output shaft. I was doing a 4x4 launch, about 10 psi boost and BOOM :(

The truck isn't too wild, I have Mach 4 injectors, 62/12 turbo and a Smarty/TST stack. I don't plan on doing much more to the truck as it needs to be reliable to tow.



Now, I'm trying to figure out what I should do.

Should I put a billet output shaft and probably move the weak point to the intermediate?
Should I just replace the output shaft with another stocker, leaving that as the weak link?

The best answer would be to upgrade both the intermediate and output shafts, but I don't have the time or money to do that.
Click to expand...


I would PM OPIE seeing that you are already running one of his input shafts and all. If you give him your address he will send you a 4 year old billet output from one of the test trucks and only charge you shipping. IMHO There is no reason for buying an intermediate at your power level and why anyone would consider anyone elses intermediate is mind blowing.
 
zstroken said:
I would guess they want someone who will stand behind the product. Just a guess though.
Click to expand...

Obviously not a very good guess as nobody else warrantees Dodge shafts for two years to my knowledge. Does your supplier?
 
Opie said:
Obviously not a very good guess as nobody else warrantees Dodge shafts for two years to my knowledge. Does your supplier?
Click to expand...


Never broke one, unlike two trucks that were less than 600HP that have broken the OPIE shaft only to not have the shaft covered. Of course the guy who just won the texas DHRA diesel nationals in the 2.8 was running the same shafts. Looks like there are several options to hold lots of power, and they have been in the truck for over 3 years.


Nate sorry to muddy up your thread. Feel free to ask questions about them.
 
Opie said:
I would PM OPIE seeing that you are already running one of his input shafts and all. If you give him your address he will send you a 4 year old billet output from one of the test trucks and only charge you shipping. IMHO There is no reason for buying an intermediate at your power level and why anyone would consider anyone elses intermediate is mind blowing.
Click to expand...


Sounds like your answer right there :rockwoot:
 
zstroken said:
Never broke one, unlike two trucks that were less than 600HP that have broken the OPIE shaft only to not have the shaft covered. Of course the guy who just won the texas DHRA diesel nationals in the 2.8 was running the same shafts. Looks like there are several options to hold lots of power, and they have been in the truck for over 3 years.


Nate sorry to muddy up your thread. Feel free to ask questions about them.
Click to expand...

Kind of crazy huh? You write of two less than 600 hp trucks not getting a warrantee from a company that makes them in batches of 100 at a time. Obviously, must be more to it than you know about.
I don't follow the DHRA and wasn't aware that finishing 1st at one event in Texas is the bar to reference how good anyones part are. Hmmm, if I wanted to do that I guess I would look at the NHRDA Nationals I went to last month. All the PRO1, Superstreet, Prostreet winners ran my parts. Did any of the trucks at the DHRA event you mention run 150mph? Any of the 4X4 trucks there have over 150 passes and running a 10.99 index? It's comical reading your banter as every year I keep improving on the 47/48RE. There are several options but IE has always set the bar and none of your options are stronger than IE's. You speak of holding lots of power, but none of your parts are rated by how much torq they will hold where as IE has stated it from year 1.

What kind of deal would your so called lots of power parts manufacturer offer Nate in this thread? Think they would even offer him a free OEM part just for buying one of their other billet parts? No the only thing he would get free from them is your cheerleading, answering questions about second best if even that parts.

Thanks for comical input zstroken but you have nothing to offer in this thread.
 
Opie said:
Kind of crazy huh? You write of two less than 600 hp trucks not getting a warrantee from a company that makes them in batches of 100 at a time. Obviously, must be more to it than you know about.
I don't follow the DHRA and wasn't aware that finishing 1st at one event in Texas is the bar to reference how good anyones part are. Hmmm, if I wanted to do that I guess I would look at the NHRDA Nationals I went to last month. All the PRO1, Superstreet, Prostreet winners ran my parts. Did any of the trucks at the DHRA event you mention run 150mph? Any of the 4X4 trucks there have over 150 passes and running a 10.99 index? It's comical reading your banter as every year I keep improving on the 47/48RE. There are several options but IE has always set the bar and none of your options are stronger than IE's. You speak of holding lots of power, but none of your parts are rated by how much torq they will hold where as IE has stated it from year 1.

What kind of deal would your so called lots of power parts manufacturer offer Nate in this thread? Think they would even offer him a free OEM part just for buying one of their other billet parts? No the only thing he would get free from them is your cheerleading, answering questions about second best if even that parts.

Thanks for comical input zstroken but you have nothing to offer in this thread.
Click to expand...


I offer the fact that your customer service plain sucks. You refusing to drop ship a part "because I don't have time for that". Refusing to warranty an input that broke on a truck that was less than 600HP. Then the brand new shaft that you shipped out that was put in a 400HP truck and broke. When it was tried to get it replaced you said it was too old to be covered.
Then the crap about you blaming a bunch of flexplates for the problems, blah, blah, blah OPIE. If you want to get a mud slinging contest lets go. I don't have anything to loose. Lets not talk about your overpriced coolant setup. I am not saying your parts are junk, but you sit there and ramble your parts are the best in the industry, and then you hose people on prices and warranty. Get a little lesson on customer service OPIE, and excersize some professionalism. Professionalism isn't saying your competitors stuff is junk and beating your chest about how great yours are. Despite what you like to believe there can be multiple great products out. Lets see several great accomplishments in high HP trucks. Then I know of failure of two sub 600HP. Wait you put a torque rating on those. Know what all of that tells me. Some of your parts can hold the high HP. Sorry for the customer who got a sub par one. I am just stating experiences. Didn't know I need to answer questions.

Humility, learn it, live it, love it.
 
nate said:
Should I put a billet output shaft and probably move the weak point to the intermediate?
Should I just replace the output shaft with another stocker, leaving that as the weak link?
Click to expand...

I would put in a billet output shaft. As far as a weak link, I don't think the next one will be the intermediate shaft. I could make you a list of weak links but you probably don't want to see that. :bang

Racing isn't the only thing that breaks stock output shafts. Exhaust brakes with lockup switches have been know to break their fair share.

Paul
 
zstroken said:
I offer the fact that your customer service plain sucks. You refusing to drop ship a part "because I don't have time for that". Refusing to warranty an input that broke on a truck that was less than 600HP. Then the brand new shaft that you shipped out that was put in a 400HP truck and broke. When it was tried to get it replaced you said it was too old to be covered.
Then the crap about you blaming a bunch of flexplates for the problems, blah, blah, blah OPIE. If you want to get a mud slinging contest lets go. I don't have anything to loose. Lets not talk about your overpriced coolant setup. I am not saying your parts are junk, but you sit there and ramble your parts are the best in the industry, and then you hose people on prices and warranty. Get a little lesson on customer service OPIE, and excersize some professionalism. Professionalism isn't saying your competitors stuff is junk and beating your chest about how great yours are. Despite what you like to believe there can be multiple great products out. Lets see several great accomplishments in high HP trucks. Then I know of failure of two sub 600HP. Wait you put a torque rating on those. Know what all of that tells me. Some of your parts can hold the high HP. Sorry for the customer who got a sub par one. I am just stating experiences. Didn't know I need to answer questions.

Humility, learn it, live it, love it.
Click to expand...

Thanks for pointing it out, what horrible customer service, I don’t have time for you but I did for Nate today.

Your right you have nothing to loose nor to offer. I could care less about any of your weak accusations.

Like I hose so many people, I am the only manufacturer that even has a warrantee on his parts unless some of the other companies just started doing so.

Good idea not talk about my coolant bypass as it would probably be a waste of time higher than likely it's over your head anyway.

No question about it I do make the strongest transmission parts and unlike the ones you buy and sell all of mine are all made in the USA. That’s my belief and that’s because it's a fact.

zstroken your thought out self answered replys are as weak as your overpriced $1500 transmissions. :bang
 
Install the billet output shaft don't worry about the intermediate. As far as shafts that brake sometimes it other causes other than HP and torque that causes the problems. As far as Opies customer service you can't go wrong. Thanks for the four trouble free drag seasons on my race truck transmission, have burned up tones of clutches and torques but never snapped a shaft. Here is Opies latest creation that has found its home in my race truck.
 

Attachments

  • 015.jpg
    015.jpg
    62.6 KB · Views: 47
Opie said:
Thanks for pointing it out, what horrible customer service, I don’t have time for you but I did for Nate today.

Your right you have nothing to loose nor to offer. I could care less about any of your weak accusations.

Like I hose so many people, I am the only manufacturer that even has a warrantee on his parts unless some of the other companies just started doing so.

Good idea not talk about my coolant bypass as it would probably be a waste of time higher than likely it's over your head anyway.

No question about it I do make the strongest transmission parts and unlike the ones you buy and sell all of mine are all made in the USA. That’s my belief and that’s because it's a fact.

zstroken your thought out self answered replys are as weak as your overpriced $1500 transmissions. :bang
Click to expand...


Funny thing is, I don't sell them! Get your facts straight! I have an idea though, I might start selling items and offering a warranty on them like yours, you know the warranty that is denied when someone says they broke a part. What a lame comeback OPIE, about as lame as your warranty. You are making this very fun though. It doesn't matter what kind of warranty you offer, if you won't stand behind all of the shafts that break then your warranty is useless! Keep typing OPIE, if you haven't realized by now I enjoy debates, but I guess that is cause I am such a loser! For not caring about what I say, you sure type a lot of jibberish back when I say something. Game on OPIE! Fact... your shafts have broken in low HP trucks and you won't warrant them. Lets talk about overpriced transmissions, what does a tranny with your shafts costs? Last time I talked to someone they told me they were quoted over $8000. That is overpriced! He went with an HTS! Guess what it has been serving him very well, and he has money in the bank.
 
OPIE I just got done taking a crap and it reminded me of your warranty. I am glad you took care of Nate, and if you have changed your warranty policy since the beginning of the year and started to warranty all the shafts, then good for you. If not then your warranty is worth less than what I flushed! At least someone could use that to help fertilize something.
 
I had a small warranty issue that Opie dealt with immediately.

I have destroyed other manufactures "billet" shafts at under 700Hp.....

If you are making real power, and you are a drag racer or a puller, you can expect to break standard sized billet shafts.
I don't care who makes them....Its just a matter of when...Not if.
Dave Goerend will tell you the same thing.

Opie's fat shafts are the only permanent cure for broken shafts.
 
Smokin07 said:
I had a small warranty issue that Opie dealt with immediately.

I have destroyed other manufactures "billet" shafts at under 700Hp.....

If you are making real power, and you are a drag racer or a puller, you can expect to break standard sized billet shafts.
I don't care who makes them....Its just a matter of when...Not if.
Dave Goerend will tell you the same thing.

Opie's fat shafts are the only permanent cure for broken shafts.
Click to expand...


I am not saying shafts don't break, they do break. I just know of several OPIE shafts that have broken and they were given a bunch of BS about not using the proper flexplate, or something else. So why pay the extra coin when plenty of other shafts hold the power just fine. The other shafts appear to work correctly with any flexplate. Didn't DTT quit using the OPIE shafts?

How many OPIE shafts have been warrantied? You can get all the "cheerleaders" you want to post up on this OPIE. If me complaining got nate an output shaft, then I guess complaining was worthwhile. Having you step up and warranty the shafts that you sell with a warranty doesn't seem that hard now does it?
 
Just to make this clear, the output shaft that I broke was a stock one.


I'm not sure what the story is on the warranty issue zstroken, but it sounds like you need to get on the phone with Opie and get things figured out.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top