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24VTurbo

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Hows it going guys? im new to this forum. I got my mind set on putting a VE IP on my 99' 24V. has anybody done this on this site? or know what all is involved in this swap? any info or thought would be greatly appreciated!

okay thanks, and have a good one!
 
Quicker and potentially cheaper to just swap in a VE engine if you really just gotta have that little pump. As stated above, either this is a joke or hold on to your ass!
 
Seen on one of the forums it's being worked on,
Thread title was "a different kind of swap"
 
Someday I'd like to try putting a VE on a 24V. Why- because you get a mechanical pump with dynamic timing, and when set up properly- and combined with the improved breathing (especially if it's a CR motor)- it should make some decent power with better efficiency than a p-pump. Add the timing spacer upgrade and you get a lot of timing when pushed past 3000-3500 RPM without losing low end grunt as typical with fixed-timing p-pumps. No it won't make anywhere near the power of a cranked up p-pump but for a lot of guys a VE can deliver plenty enough to please.
 
always thought about it and had plans for it but haven't had a spare 24 valve to mess with yet. Got all the VE stuff to swap on though. I havent seen/heard of it done til I saw the thread above a few months ago
 
Planning to put a ve on my 99 with a common rail head. Hopefully within the next couple weeks.
 
You can helicoil the pump end of the lines, but you have to install the coils manually, with out the tool.
I did this by screwing helicoils into an old 14mm mag-style lugnut, heating to a red glow, allowing them to cool and removing them from the lugnut.
I then trim to fit the line end, then screw in by finger with a dab of loc-tite.

It's a time-consuming pain in the ass to do, but a very cheap solution.

A non-intercooled ('89-early '91) pump and any VE timing case fits the 24 valve just fine, but you will need to jump a tooth and retard the pump clear to the studs for stock-ish timing.
The reason to do this is because the linkages will hit the head.

A pic of how I ground on a head, to help clear the linkages for potential timing advance later (note: the corner and bolt didn't need ground, but this was the 1st attempt.):

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Cumminsfever said:
Planning to put a ve on my 99 with a common rail head. Hopefully within the next couple weeks.
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Hopefully you have a custom intake, because the VE will NOT clear the stock intake casting on a CR head, due to it being wider at that point.

Mark.
 
This Diesel Care Inc seems like a better answer to get the lines to fit the pump, though I think their description of what they are used for is wrong.

Takes care of thread size and pump length, easy and cheap.
 
I just called Diesel Care and they no longer stock the part mentioned above.

They had the app wrong, it allows a 1st gen injector to a 2nd gen line, therefore you use 1st gen injectors in a P-pump 12 valve.
Seems counter intuitive to me, but those would PROBABLY work to VE a VP pump 24 valve, if you use the Intercooled (short DV holder) injection pump.

Looking at the pic on the link posted, the female end was 12mm (same as a VE DV holder), the male was 14mm (same as a VP line end), but how long were they overall?
The Intercooled DV holder is 3/4" SHORTER than a Non-I/Ced holder and the lines fit perfectly with a non I/Ced pump bolted up.

Mark.
 
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