Rusted Injectors

Nothing new today. We took top end apart, and sent the heads to the machine shop. Machine shop is backed up a couple of jobs, They said they should know something on Saturday.
 
PSDPlayer said:
Hey Rich, who did that super install on those injectors?
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It's so long ago Doug I honestly don't remember. It might have been DJ or it could have been me. I'm old....the memory ain't what it used to be.
 
UNBROKEN said:
Here's some trashed o-rings I had and the reason the screens are there:

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Man that was a long time ago...note the F8 on the injector body....that's the 8th injector of the 6th set Tadd ever built.
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Did it run like that and if it did what were the symptoms? Gotta see what mine look like this weekend if the slave driver lets up on me. Oh yeah, did it damage the injectors? Thanks.
 
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Thanks Nate, gimme a call tomorrow. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but given my luck till this point, who knows. If anyone has a line on a set of stock heads some has lying around/selling let me know, as long as they guarantee they pass a pressure test.

Send me some pics, how did the bottom of the valves look and the pistons.
 
Here is the OASIS Report That I got from Mikes VIN#

OASIS RESULT:
1FTWW33P45EA79802
11/12/2008
20:36:29
FCXWS447
© Copyright 2002-2008 Ford Motor Company. All rights reserved.

VEHICLE INFORMATION
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION
2005 F-SERIES BODY STYLE
F-350 CREW CAB 4X4 ENGINE
6.0L DIESEL DI V8
TRANSMISSION
TORQSHIFT AXLE CODE
4N ENGINE CALIBRATION

NO WARNING MESSAGES FOUND FOR THIS VIN
ARN MESSAGES
ATTENTION TECHNICIANS AND SERVICE MANAGERS:
BEFORE REPLACING 6.0L CYLINDER HEAD GASKETS REFER TO 08-11-03
BEFORE REPLACING 6.0L TURBOCHARGER OR VGT SOLENOID REFER TO 08-16-13
BEFORE REPLACING FUEL INJECTORS FOR COLD ENGINE OPERATION SEE TSB 07-05-04
GENERAL WARRANTY INFORMATION
WARRANTY START DATE
04/07/2005 BUILD DATE
10/15/2004 SALE MILEAGE

OUTSTANDING FIELD SERVICE ACTIONS
NO CAMPAIGN MESSAGE(S) FOUND
EXTENDED COVERAGES
NO ESP INFORMATION AVAILABLE
WARRANTY REPAIR HISTORY
NO RECENT REPAIR HISTORY ON VEHICLE
Click Here for Full Warranty History
| On-line 1878
END OF OASIS REPORT FOR 1FTWW33P45EA79802


Detailed Vehicle Specification

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VIN VEH LINE MKT DERIV BODY CAB VER SERIES DRIVE TYPE PLT CD TRS CD ENG CD PROD DATE WARR DATE SELLING DEALER SELL CNT TIS WCC CPSC_6 PREF BASE SUFF CCC CD DIST(Miles)
1FTWW33P45EA79802 T/F7 F T/BC T/CD T/E A1 T/BE T/YB 15-OCT-2004 07-APR-2005 144072 USA 10 2E05 100106 3C3Z 9B249 AB D50 42 48418
AWS Claim Key: 3095699 Trx Code: E72 Labor Hrs: 0.5
Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 04379 - * Name: PRESTON FORD, INC. Ph: 440-9514141 St:OH Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:10-JAN-2006 Doc #:034125A
Cust Comments: C S WATER SEPARATOR DRAIN WILL NOT EXTRACT
Tech Comments: 48418 INSPECT...VERIFY CUST CONCERN. ATTEMP TO REMOVE PLUG. WONT BUDGE. INSTALL NEW WATER FUEL SEPERATOR MODULE, NO OPERATES AS DESIGNED

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1FTWW33P45EA79802 T/F7 F T/BC T/CD T/E A1 T/BE T/YB 15-OCT-2004 07-APR-2005 144072 USA 11 * * * * * * * 53698
AWS Claim Key: 3521804 Trx Code: 59B01 Labor Hrs: 0.3
Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 02313 - * Name: WEBER-HARRIS FORD L-M INC Ph: 814-3363166 St:PA Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:10-FEB-2006 Doc #:09175503
Cust Comments: RECALL 59B01
Tech Comments: ASSURANCE TEST DRIVE

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1FTWW33P45EA79802 T/F7 F T/BC T/CD T/E A1 T/BE T/YB 15-OCT-2004 07-APR-2005 144072 USA 11 * * * * * * * 53698
AWS Claim Key: 3521803 Trx Code: 05B32 Labor Hrs: 0.2
Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 02313 - * Name: WEBER-HARRIS FORD L-M INC Ph: 814-3363166 St:PA Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:10-FEB-2006 Doc #:09175504
Cust Comments: RECALL 05B32
Tech Comments: INSTALL DEGAS BOTTLE LABEL PER RECALL

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1FTWW33P45EA79802 T/F7 F T/BC T/CD T/E A1 T/BE T/YB 15-OCT-2004 07-APR-2005 144072 USA 11 * * * * * * * 53698
AWS Claim Key: 3521805 Trx Code: 05E15 Labor Hrs: 1
Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 02313 - * Name: WEBER-HARRIS FORD L-M INC Ph: 814-3363166 St:PA Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:10-FEB-2006 Doc #:09175502
Cust Comments: RECALL 05E15
Tech Comments: REPLACED EP SENSOR AND RECALIBRATED MODULES

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1FTWW33P45EA79802 T/F7 F T/BC T/CD T/E A1 T/BE T/YB 15-OCT-2004 07-APR-2005 144072 USA 11 1H03 030008 5C3Z 9F452 AA D02 49 56136
AWS Claim Key: 3840634 Trx Code: E72 Labor Hrs: 12.3
Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 02356 - * Name: CRANDALL FORD, INC. Ph: 440-2593131 St:OH Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:01-MAR-2006 Doc #:016779A
Cust Comments: INSP AFTER ENGINE IS WARM IS HARD TO START,DID LOOSE POWER AND BLOW SMOKE 1 TIME ,BUT JUST CRANKS BUT WONT START HOT
Tech Comments: VERIFY AND REPLACE EGR VALVE, HIGH PRESSURE PUMP, & INJECTOR PRESSURE REGULATOR

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1FTWW33P45EA79802 T/F7 F T/BC T/CD T/E A1 T/BE T/YB 15-OCT-2004 07-APR-2005 144072 USA 17 2H01 030407 4C3Z 6K682 ARM D42 69 84870
AWS Claim Key: 5747006 Trx Code: S07 Labor Hrs: 0
Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 02356 - * Name: CRANDALL FORD, INC. Ph: 440-2593131 St:OH Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:28-AUG-2006 Doc #:019330A
Cust Comments: INSPECT FOR LOSS OF POWER
Tech Comments: TEST DIESEL ENGINE OPERATION,VARIFY AND REPL TURBOCHARGER,REPL VGT AND EGR AND DESLUDGE INTAKE AND RE TEST

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1FTWW33P45EA79802 T/F7 F T/BC T/CD T/E A1 T/BE T/YB 15-OCT-2004 07-APR-2005 144072 USA 21 1H03 030804 3C3Z 9J469 AA D41 01 95224
AWS Claim Key: 7136688 Trx Code: E72 Labor Hrs: 11.5
Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 02356 - * Name: CRANDALL FORD, INC. Ph: 440-2593131 St:OH Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:30-NOV-2006 Doc #:02063701
Cust Comments: INSP ENGINE RUNS ROUGH AND VERY HARD START W COLD HEAVY SMOKE FROM
Tech Comments: TEST DIESEL ENGINE OPERATON,RECAL PCM,REPL FICM,DESLUDGE INTAKE AND EGR AND DESLUDGE TURBO PER TSBS

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1FTWW33P45EA79802 T/F7 F T/BC T/CD T/E A1 T/BE T/YB 15-OCT-2004 07-APR-2005 144072 USA 21 2E03 030402 4C3Z 9E527 AA D42 69 95224
AWS Claim Key: 6584452 Trx Code: S07 Labor Hrs: 9.2
Dlr Cd-Sub Cd: 02356 - * Name: CRANDALL FORD, INC. Ph: 440-2593131 St:OH Ctry Cd: USA Reg Cd: NA Repr Date:30-NOV-2006 Doc #:020637A
Cust Comments: INSDP ENGINE RUNS VERY ROUGH WORSE W COLD POOR POWER HEAVY SMOKE FROM TAILPIPE
Tech Comments: ROAD TEST TEST DIESEL OPERATION,VAERIFY AND REPROGPCM,REFLASH FICM,DESLUDGE TURBO AND INTAKE

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And here are a few pictures that we took during the pressure test on saturday morning. We found a that the passengers side head is cracked in the #5 cylinder...





 
Anyone have suggestions on what I can do to prevent this from happening again? I wasn't exactly hard on the truck and it's stock. Is it a design flaw? Has it been remedied with the Job2 heads?
 
Well, I just got off of the phone with the local International Dealer, and Ford has Fuked us again!!!

The Part number for the cylinder head is 5010402R91... BUT, it is captive to Ford.

Anyone have any suggestions?

For reference, the oil cooler has changed part numbers and gone up also.
the new part number is 1840756C96.
 
Cylinder Head
6C3Z-6049-AA 1087.98 plus 250.00 CORE

Head gasket set 2 req'd
6C3Z-6051-AA 133.90
 
Trying to determine the correct number to call IH on for HGs. I see seven numbers, how do I tell which one when the Ford number is 6C3Z 6051 AA

F7TZ 6051 AAA F7TZ6051AAA NAVISTAR-1825289C1 GASKET-CYLINDER HEAD R.H. 1825289C1
YC3Z 6051 AA YC356051AA NAVISTAR-1826672C1 GASKET-CYL HEAD RH 1826672C1
3C3Z 6051 BA 3C346G098AE NAV 1847028C95 KIT GSKT HD CYL 1847028C95
3C3Z 6051 CA 3C346G098AF NAV 1847028C96 KIT GSKT HD CYL 1847028C96
4C3Z 6051 CA 4C346G098AD NAV 1847100C94 KIT GSKT HD CYL 1847100C94
4C3Z 6051 DA 4C346G098BA NAV 1847201C91 KIT GSKT HD CYL 1847201C91
4C3Z 6051 EA 4C346G098AE NAV 1847100C95 KIT GSKT HD CYL 1847100C95
6E7Z 6051 AA 6E7O6051AA GSKT-CYL HD 1840498C1
6E7Z 6051 AB 6E7O6G098AB KIT GSKT HD CYL 1847164C92

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F7TZ is going to be 1997
YC3Z is going to be like 2000
3C3Z is 2003
4C3Z is 2004
6 whatever is 2006
 
Thanks, based on our conversation on Saturday, I should be asking about one of these two. Since I will likely be getting a new head.

6E7Z 6051 AA 6E7O6051AA GSKT-CYL HD 1840498C1
6E7Z 6051 AB 6E7O6G098AB KIT GSKT HD CYL 1847164C92
 
A conversation with the local ford dealer would go a long way. Ask him for a cylinder head for a 2007 f-250. It will have the adapter dowels in the kit. But remember that the 05 stock head on the other side will require the gasket for that dowel size. Then he can look for the supercede in the parts numbering system.
 
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