Sound like a bad ficm?

03BlackWidow

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I posted before about thinking i have a few bad injectors but now im thinking it may be more of a weak ficm. The truck has run weak, really underpowered untill completly upto temp and even then it runs weak and at wot you can hear the misses through the exhaust.

Here in the last month it will randomly not start, maybe 3-4 times in the last few weeks. I dont know if it helps or not but if i mess around the ficm harness a few time itll fire right up and be like its normal weak self. I highly doubt its a injection pressure issue because when it starts it fires right up and idles normal, nothing like priming the system. When it doesnt fire its like the injectors arent firing at all the tone is different and theres no smoke.

I just pulled one injector plug and it read 10.5 and 11.78 on it with the key on, i read somewhere on here it should be around 23v. Is that the clear cut sign my ficm is finally took a dump?
 
I did a lil more research and it sounds like my problem, i will take the test port off and check the voltage at the ficm itself tomorow to be sure.


Heres my next question anyone here dealt with Swamps rebuilding theres or even going the 58v route? The local ford dealer i use here is $825 and they claimed it didnt need anymore programming so maybe that price includes it. Anyways Swamps is about 1/2 the price but I would like to hear some feedback before i kick myself in the ass for being a cheapass.

I think i can borrow a ficm off a work truck to get mine by in the meantime I just want to do this once. This is my original one so another 8yrs or another 100k miles is good.
 
Ficm test....,COPIED!!!! NOT MINE

6.0’s, FICM’s and cold-start issues.

If your 6.0 will not start cold, the issue may be injectors, the glow plugs or glow plug controller, or it can be the FICM (Fuel Injection Control Module). If after a long cranking with no start you get a lot of white smoke (raw unburnt fuel) out the exhaust, the problem is probably in the injectors or glow plug system. If you do not get any smoke, the problem is probably in the FICM. It is usually accompanied w/ multiple injector codes and a p0611 code.

The 6.0 injector has two solenoids on it; one turns the injector on (open) and the other turns it off (close). A few years ago, Ford came out with a new program referred to as inductive heating for the FICM, intended to combat issues with missing and rough-running during cold startup due to sticking spool valves in the injectors. This program works by running “extra” current through the close coil to generate heat and warm up the spool. On paper it was an excellent idea, and I advised a lot of potential injector customers to have their FICM’s reflashed rather than buy a set of injectors.

Based on my testing, it appears that the early models of FICM’s only used the inductive heating when the EOT was less than 48*F or so.
The “first” updated heating strategy turned it on any time the EOT was less than 184*F:

meaning every time you started the truck (if it had been shut off for more than 10 minutes) that the inductive heat was used!

Ford’s newest update to the heating strategy has it coming on below 148*F; better, but that’s still a lot of current draw.

Unfortunately, there have been some very serious consequences.
Although the FICM on the 6.0 is way more “intelligent” than the IDM on a 7.3, its basic job is to convert 12VDC to 48VDC and deliver this to the injectors at the proper time. Under normal operating conditions, the FICM typically draws 6-7 amps at 12V into the FICM power supply, which is well within its design limits.

However, with the inductive heating active this current draw increases to 24-32 amps—it pegs the 30 amp meter on my test bench! Although the FICM power supply is capable of sustaining this load for short periods of time (1-2 minutes) it eventually gets very hot.

If this was all that happened, things wouldn’t be too bad, but there are several components on the printed circuit board that were not properly soldered during the manufacturing process, and as the PCB heats up and expands, the solder under these components cracks and they lose their electrical connection.

The FICM’s 48 volt power supply is actually four separate or independent units; if one of the four goes down, the other three can supply enough current to run the truck, even with the inductive heating active. If two of the four go out, the truck will start and run normally as long as it is warm out. i.e. as long as the inductive heating does not turn on.

If three of the four go out, the truck will probably not start or run unless it is at full operating temperature, and even then it may not start.
If the injector voltage is over 35 volts, they run OK, although not as well as when it is 48 volts.

If the voltage drops below around 24 volts, the injectors cannot fire.
While most scan tools will display the FICM voltage, they do not always show the correct value.

For instance, AutoEngenuity can only display voltages between 40 to 56 volts, so if the voltage is 35, it will display 40.

How to check your FICM for proper voltage output.
(Perform this check when the engine is completely cold.)

1. Remove the two bolts that hold the coolant reservoir to the cowl and push the reservoir out of the way forward and to your right. You do not need to disconnect any of the hoses.

2. On top of the FICM is a small cover held on by two #20 Torx screws; remove these two screws and pry the cover off.

3. On 2003 and early 2004 trucks, you will see 7 screw heads under the cover. On 2004 and later trucks you will see 4 screws.

PROCEDURE for 4 SCREW FICM
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/pi...ictureid=19314

4a. Take a multi-meter set on DC volts and connect the ground lead to battery negative, and with the key ON measure the voltage at the screw on your right—closest to the driver’s side fender. Do not let the probe short against the case! The voltage should be right at 48 volts. Anything between 47 and 49 is good.

5a. Have an assistant cycle the key and measure the voltage during the initial key-on buzz test. Voltage should not drop below 46 volts.

6a. Next measure the voltage while cranking the engine. If voltage stays at or above 45-46 volts, the FICM is fine. Abnormally low battery voltage can give a false low FICM voltage reading, so make sure your batteries are good.

The procedure is the same for FICM’s with 7 screws, except that you will be checking voltage at a different screw, as shown in this picture.

PROCEDURE for 7 SCREW FICM
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/pi...ictureid=19315

4b. Repeat step 4 above (multi meter step) but put the positive lead on the left-most screw in the row of 4 screws.
Do not let the probe short against the case!

5b. Same as 5a above

6b. Same as 6a above

If the voltage is above 46 volts in all the tests, your FICM is in excellent condition.

If it is between 36 and 45 volts its OK, but not great. If it is between 25 and 35 volts, you have serious FICM problems.
 
I have had good luck on several occasions with the rebuilt FICMs from Swamps, good people to deal with and a fast turn around time. Do you have access to a good scan tool?
 
Well i have a the 7pin ficm and one would read 61v and drop to 22 and back upto 58 a second or 2 into cranking, the others never got over 15. Im not sure why the one is so high but looks like only 1 was putting out anything to fire injectors.
It still wouldnt start so I borrowed a ficm off a work truck thats been down for awhile to keep mine going untill i get another. It started right up and drove quite a bit smoother overall. However i think i do have a bad injector or 2 also. At an idle it is pretty rough and at 1st throttle stopped or rolling theres a long rough delay before the truck actually begins to accellerate. And still the bad shudder with the converter locked under 70mph.


The mechanic at work has a genysis but its off to be updated right now so i dont have access to a scanner for a week or so. Im getting pretty frustrated, i just want to know what all it needs so it runs right but i dont have a bunch of money to throw at a dealer to do all the diagnosis and not actually fix a thing.
 
We sell any where from 2-10 Swamp's FICMs a month. Never had a problem with them and most people even report at sizable jump in milage with the 58volt upgrade.
 
Problem not solved. This morning it wouldnt start again just like before with my original ficm. Guess im pretty well screwed untill i can get ahold of a scanner to see what my inection pressure looks like.

What kills me is that it was so random at 1st, i mean it could sit for a week and fire right up then sit for a day or 2 and not start. If it does start though then its good for the day:bang
 
^^ I agree. You need a minimum of 500psi for the truck to start. Next time the truck doesnt start unplug the ICP sensor and try it again.
 
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