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Will high timing (20*) in cold weather cause it to turn over really slow when starting, or just make it harder to start? Its like the batteries are dead but they are only 2 months old. Just want to make sure before I start messing with it.
 
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timing wont make it turn slow, thick oil will

check the connections at the batteries
 
OrangeNV said:
timing wont make it turn slow, thick oil will

check the connections at the batteries
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This^^^ But also check your starter/connections.

But higher timing will make the truck harder to start when cold.
 
Last winter my starter was taking a chit and I thought it was the batteries. The solenoid post actually fried itself off inside the starter. New starter and problem fixed.
 
Mine always seemed to slow down some when it got colder but my truck was a cold blooded SOB and hated running in the cold.
 
Ok. I tried jumping her off the dually and still the same slow turn over. Im guess oil or timing is my problem. I got a oil pan heater laying around guess ill give that a try

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My buddy has 30* timing. Pain in the ass to start when cold. But still cranks fast. Batteries connections started something in those lines
 
If you put jumper cables on and it still cranked slowly your starter is goin out.

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Pull the starter off and take the back cover off and see if the contacts are warn down. If they are get new ones and it should be good to go. And will only cost you 20-30 bucks.
 
I vote starter...

I think geno's has the contact kit as well.
 
Well, I plugged in the oil pan and the block for about an hour, and jumped her off the dually. She fired up instantly.

Should I still check starter? Or just chalk it up to thick oil? It probably wouldn't hurt to upgrade a 13yo truck with 150k on it.

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Checking it wont hurt it. thin oil might help up ther in the cold.

May I hickjack this completed thread with anouther question I should know the answer to??

Will higher timing 25.5* and cold weather cause it to haze more at idle? I thought the haze before was bad injectors (timing was 21). Now with new larger injectors, and higher timing it hazes a lot at idle, and it's getting colder everyday. It has all happened right at the same time, so It's hard to determine the exact cause...ambient tempetures/high timing/7x.012 sticks???
 
starter i went through the same thing last winter thought it was the batteries but it was starter
 
SHughes said:
Checking it wont hurt it. thin oil might help up ther in the cold.

May I hickjack this completed thread with anouther question I should know the answer to??

Will higher timing 25.5* and cold weather cause it to haze more at idle? I thought the haze before was bad injectors (timing was 21). Now with new larger injectors, and higher timing it hazes a lot at idle, and it's getting colder everyday. It has all happened right at the same time, so It's hard to determine the exact cause...ambient tempetures/high timing/7x.012 sticks???
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I would think so but I dont know anything. With my old 12v it had stock sticks with I think 22* timing and it hazed like a sob. And when I put the twins on and 5x14 injectors, it did get a little worse haze at idle.
 
I would put my money on a bad battery or two, they dont show there weakness usually until it gets this cold. get them load tested, but make sure you disconect them and test seperately or youll get a false reading
 
SHughes said:
Checking it wont hurt it. thin oil might help up ther in the cold.

May I hickjack this completed thread with anouther question I should know the answer to??

Will higher timing 25.5* and cold weather cause it to haze more at idle? I thought the haze before was bad injectors (timing was 21). Now with new larger injectors, and higher timing it hazes a lot at idle, and it's getting colder everyday. It has all happened right at the same time, so It's hard to determine the exact cause...ambient tempetures/high timing/7x.012 sticks???
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My haze is a lot more noticeable in the cold.
 
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