thanks Fordfan, that is what I was trying to describe. Mine seems to do that only on occassion and it seems to be 3-4 shift, and I could not publicate it if I tried, it just happens on occasion, and never at WOT, it seems to be only when leaving from a light under regular around town driving, no load. For a guy that can't afford to replace his tranny, would it be wise for me to remove the street file in an effort to conserve my tranny? I'm running Doug's Extreme Street tune and Eric's too. No race file.