I am having trouble with the $4,700 trans that i had someone close to cincinnati build. When the truck is first started up 9 times out of 10 when you go to put it into drive it goes directly into drive and doesn't start out into first like it is supposed to. I can manually down shift it but it will only down shift into 2nd gear unless i go straight from neutral to first that is the only time i can get it to go into first. Some times i can shut the truck off as im going down the road and turn it back on and i will work fine until i shut it of when i get to where im going and if it sits for more than 20 mins it starts its same **** again. They guy that built the trans called me out of the blue one day after not answering my calls for about atleast a month and sent me this resistor to splice into the pcm, orange wire middle plug. He told me that he just did this to another truck that he just build the trans for and it was the doing the samething mine was and it worked. Does anyone now of a good trans. guy around cincinnati?
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Billy is the one that built the trans. Don't know what is so great to deal with, the fact that he always has an excuse about why he didn't answer his phone or that he doesn't answer and doesn't call you back. I agree that his prices are great and when the trans works its great but just getting it to work is a whole different story.
zstroken your going into limp. Resistor should help fix it. If not get a VBA from goerend or haisley machine.
Yesterday 08:10 PM The resistor didn't help, And how hard it it to put the VBA.
zstroken your going into limp. Resistor should help fix it. If not get a VBA from goerend or haisley machine.
Yesterday 08:10 PM The resistor didn't help, And how hard it it to put the VBA.
billy may be hard to get ahold of but hes a one man show and a very busy one at that. he does great work has great prices and is a stand up guy.
Im sure he will get you taken care of. the issue is probably in the vb and should be a warranty claim.
Im sure he will get you taken care of. the issue is probably in the vb and should be a warranty claim.
when billys trans works it is awsome, i just feel like he was avoiding me when I called. I finally talked to him today. Hopefully we can get this thing on the right track this weekend. I just didn't know what else to do about it and i was seeing if there was someone else around here to try and ge the problem solved.
billy can be hard to get ahold of, but give him a chance to do you right as you will have a hard time finding a more honest individual.
as he will prolly tell you hes got a lot going on in his personal life but i know he'll get you staightened out and his work is top notch. you go to him as a customer, but you leave with a friend.
as he will prolly tell you hes got a lot going on in his personal life but i know he'll get you staightened out and his work is top notch. you go to him as a customer, but you leave with a friend.
kelownadiesel
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what ,did he forget the resistor /regulator initially when he installed your trans? 3rd gear starts are terrible,anyone with tranny experience should know about the voltage necessities
zstroken Going to limp is usually a result of seeing too much gov pressure. The resistor or VBA should have been installed
The resistor was installed do you think that the VBA will fix the problem. I think that all the codes that it is throwing are all related.
743 TC clutch cir elect. prob
123 TPS/APPS sig. high voltage
753 Shift solenoid A
748 Press control solenoid elect prob.
1693 MIL fault in companing module
176 Gov Press Sensor to high
gotta12v i would assume since it occours intermittently that it is not a missing part but rather a faulty part that would be the manufactures issue not the builders
Im not saying that billy didn't put the trans together right but i also didn't pay $4,700 for it to do the same thing it was before i took it to him.
The resistor was installed do you think that the VBA will fix the problem. I think that all the codes that it is throwing are all related.
743 TC clutch cir elect. prob
123 TPS/APPS sig. high voltage
753 Shift solenoid A
748 Press control solenoid elect prob.
1693 MIL fault in companing module
176 Gov Press Sensor to high
gotta12v i would assume since it occours intermittently that it is not a missing part but rather a faulty part that would be the manufactures issue not the builders
Im not saying that billy didn't put the trans together right but i also didn't pay $4,700 for it to do the same thing it was before i took it to him.
FireMed
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Is the resister a replacement for a voltage regulator? IDK, Ive got a DTT and i dont think ive got a resistor. I can adjust my voltage regulator and do the same thing Mwyant's doing.
Autos are touchy sometimes but once you get them figured out, there grrreeeaaattt. It does take some adjusting and tweeking to get them in line, i know ive been there.
Once you get it done, come up to eddgewater on the 24th.
Good Luck
Autos are touchy sometimes but once you get them figured out, there grrreeeaaattt. It does take some adjusting and tweeking to get them in line, i know ive been there.
Once you get it done, come up to eddgewater on the 24th.
Good Luck
zstroken
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I have seen trucks that don't like the resistor and you put the VBA on it and it works great. The VBA is a voltage regulator. It is a 5V regulator. It will not allow the PCM to see voltage above the threshhold. Those codes see like they are wiring related. It doesn't sound like the tranny is the culprit. Possibly a harness issue somewhere.
I agree that the resistor, or VBA should have been installed. I have seen some diodes work also.
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Billy @ BRC Diesel here,
First of all, I'm just a parts changer actually. I did build this trans for a truck that I couldn't test drive when I installed the trans because of engine problems.
Second, I am quite confident this is not a hard parts problem. It is certainly electrical related. This is reinforced by the fact that the problem (which was there before the truck came to me in non driveable condition) is intermittent and somewhat inconsistent. I did send the resistor to "try". Not as a band aid fix, but because it has worked before, after it was recomended by Dave Goerend. It's his products in the trans. I've had several conversations with Dave about this trucks problems, this was suggested as a first step to try. After that, it would be easier to get the truck here and put a scan tool on it and get some input, rather than speculation. It might be a problem with the pcm, or there might be a problem with the spliced wires near the connector plug at the trans. Doubtfull though, Matt has checked the wires and all grounds, etc. several times along with numerous electrical connection plugs and such. It just likes limping when it wants to. Electrical gremlins can be a *****. Over the years, I've spent a lotta time with od and lockup "hunting" issues. The cure is not the same on each truck for this common problem either. Out of the thirty one 618 trannies I've built so far, two have had this "no first gear takeoff" problem. A simple resistor cured the first one.
And third, not that anyone really cares about my personal problems anyway. I AM very hard to get a hold of often. I am a "one man show", meaning I can either work under a truck or talk on the phone, seldom both at once.
Also, my son's mother, who lives in a wheelchair, has been either in the nursing home or in the hospital (back and forth 4 times) since July 25th. Hasn't been in her home since July and is still in a nursing home right now. Looks like she may never get to return home either. We have a sixteen year old son who gets a bit of my time also. Seeing his mother go from walking and driving to having NO use of her legs in less than two years is kinda rough on a teenage mind.
I turn my cell off in the hospital and it doesn't have voice mail anymore, so it is recommended to call the business phone and leave a message.
I'm not trying to solicite sympathy here or make any excuses. Just admitting that I'm hard to get a hold of. Call it an excuse if ya'll want to, don't matter to me. Call the business phone and leave a message.
I've been in business six and a half years and have never, ever evaded any problems or failed to back up anything I do on a customers truck. It's easy to call yourself a business and just sell parts. I guarantee everything I do, to the best of my ability and within reason.
This trucks problems are just hard to fix over the phone or internet. Sometimes, ya just gotta get your hands dirty to fix things.
I didn't mean to stray off subject. I just can't fix things online.
Cousin Billy
First of all, I'm just a parts changer actually. I did build this trans for a truck that I couldn't test drive when I installed the trans because of engine problems.
Second, I am quite confident this is not a hard parts problem. It is certainly electrical related. This is reinforced by the fact that the problem (which was there before the truck came to me in non driveable condition) is intermittent and somewhat inconsistent. I did send the resistor to "try". Not as a band aid fix, but because it has worked before, after it was recomended by Dave Goerend. It's his products in the trans. I've had several conversations with Dave about this trucks problems, this was suggested as a first step to try. After that, it would be easier to get the truck here and put a scan tool on it and get some input, rather than speculation. It might be a problem with the pcm, or there might be a problem with the spliced wires near the connector plug at the trans. Doubtfull though, Matt has checked the wires and all grounds, etc. several times along with numerous electrical connection plugs and such. It just likes limping when it wants to. Electrical gremlins can be a *****. Over the years, I've spent a lotta time with od and lockup "hunting" issues. The cure is not the same on each truck for this common problem either. Out of the thirty one 618 trannies I've built so far, two have had this "no first gear takeoff" problem. A simple resistor cured the first one.
And third, not that anyone really cares about my personal problems anyway. I AM very hard to get a hold of often. I am a "one man show", meaning I can either work under a truck or talk on the phone, seldom both at once.
Also, my son's mother, who lives in a wheelchair, has been either in the nursing home or in the hospital (back and forth 4 times) since July 25th. Hasn't been in her home since July and is still in a nursing home right now. Looks like she may never get to return home either. We have a sixteen year old son who gets a bit of my time also. Seeing his mother go from walking and driving to having NO use of her legs in less than two years is kinda rough on a teenage mind.
I turn my cell off in the hospital and it doesn't have voice mail anymore, so it is recommended to call the business phone and leave a message.
I'm not trying to solicite sympathy here or make any excuses. Just admitting that I'm hard to get a hold of. Call it an excuse if ya'll want to, don't matter to me. Call the business phone and leave a message.
I've been in business six and a half years and have never, ever evaded any problems or failed to back up anything I do on a customers truck. It's easy to call yourself a business and just sell parts. I guarantee everything I do, to the best of my ability and within reason.
This trucks problems are just hard to fix over the phone or internet. Sometimes, ya just gotta get your hands dirty to fix things.
I didn't mean to stray off subject. I just can't fix things online.
Cousin Billy
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I appreciate the scan tool code readings.
Kinda sounds electrical, seems like.
kelownadiesel.....I am aware of the voltage necessities. They're just hard to get when the truck can't be started after the trans install due to engine problems. I didn't "forget" the resistor installation during the rebuild. It isn't always a necessary thing. After the trans was installed, the owner did some engine work and the truck sat "most of the summer" he told me. I'd probably leave it sit too if the trans was so unpredictable and aggravating, not knowing if you could count on it to have more than one or two gears.
The owner and I spoke Friday about fixing the problems.
Doors were open this weekend to get the truck here and try a loaner pcm and use a scan tool. Sometimes we all have a busy schedule and other things come up unexpectedly.
If Matt wants to bring it here, it will be diagnosed. If he chooses not to, that's his decision. I hope he gives me the opportunity to get it fixed, cause $4700 is a lotta coins, especially nowdays. Price a full tranny job with billet shafts and converter including r&r. It's not a minor expense anywhere.
He's got a fully rebuilt trans with sfi flywheel, billet input and intermediate, a few billet servos and accumulators and a triple disc billet
verter in a twin turbo truck. I'd like to see it go down the strip myself:tree:.
Cousin Billy
Kinda sounds electrical, seems like.
kelownadiesel.....I am aware of the voltage necessities. They're just hard to get when the truck can't be started after the trans install due to engine problems. I didn't "forget" the resistor installation during the rebuild. It isn't always a necessary thing. After the trans was installed, the owner did some engine work and the truck sat "most of the summer" he told me. I'd probably leave it sit too if the trans was so unpredictable and aggravating, not knowing if you could count on it to have more than one or two gears.
The owner and I spoke Friday about fixing the problems.
Doors were open this weekend to get the truck here and try a loaner pcm and use a scan tool. Sometimes we all have a busy schedule and other things come up unexpectedly.
If Matt wants to bring it here, it will be diagnosed. If he chooses not to, that's his decision. I hope he gives me the opportunity to get it fixed, cause $4700 is a lotta coins, especially nowdays. Price a full tranny job with billet shafts and converter including r&r. It's not a minor expense anywhere.
He's got a fully rebuilt trans with sfi flywheel, billet input and intermediate, a few billet servos and accumulators and a triple disc billet
verter in a twin turbo truck. I'd like to see it go down the strip myself:tree:.
Cousin Billy
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Also,
I will be closed from Friday, October 10th till Wednesday, October 15th due to taking care of another family member who is having surgery on Friday.
Just thought I'd make this excuse public knowledge:hehe:.
Cousin Billy
I will be closed from Friday, October 10th till Wednesday, October 15th due to taking care of another family member who is having surgery on Friday.
Just thought I'd make this excuse public knowledge:hehe:.
Cousin Billy
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Fixed:woohoo:
Just had to get a little soot on me:charger:......right Matt:hehe:?
Now get that thing to the track before winter gets here.
Cousin Billy
Just had to get a little soot on me:charger:......right Matt:hehe:?
Now get that thing to the track before winter gets here.
Cousin Billy