Truck Rake

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Lets talk about the rake of the trucks. Some are all jacked up in the back and slammed in the front while others seem to be a bit more level/lower.

Who wants to discuss the pros and cons to big rake or lower? Which is more ideal? etc. etc.


C-ya
 
Last few years I had a leveling kit, and 1" of travel in the rear, and bounced 50% of the time if not more. This year I had the leveling kit removed, added two inches to the rear and block the suspension as high as it goes. I have pulled maybe 10 times so far with no bouncing at all. I think the raked stance helps a lot.
 
Dmaxes do it more than others to keep the steering and front diff alive but im sure it helps Ive never been a fan of leveling kits that is alot of what causes the dodge death wobble
 
revolutiondsl said:
Dmaxes do it more than others to keep the steering and front diff alive but im sure it helps Ive never been a fan of leveling kits that is alot of what causes the dodge death wobble
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Really.
There must be something I am missing then. I see more dodges doing it but you see less of that know. Jacking the back end of a Dmax is bad for the frontend. When it pulls level the frontend is now higher and the CVs are at more angle.
 
i didnt mean jacking the back up of a dmax I meant lowering the front its still a rake correct they hang a ton weight and let the torsion bars down then just put suspension stops
 
Hears something that gets me... The gassers have obviously been at it a good bit longer than these diesels n it seems a great deal of em are severally raked n they don't typically weigh as much as us.

However, the pro mods gassers n mod/open diesels all seem to be pretty low slung and more or less pulling linearly rather than so high and pulling down as much in the back.

Just wondering what the diff makes of pulling more horizontally than vertically in the rear?

My guess is enough load will be on the rear in the lower stance without having to jack the rear up for even more mechanical advantage to loading the rear. It also reduces the teeter totter effect of raising the front too much with the rear all jacked up.


Yes, I did notice that Wakeman was sporting a pretty radical rake BUT it didn't seem like his front pulled up too high. More or less just pulled level like most dmaxes do. That tells me he's got the susp. dialed in pretty good to heavily load the rear via rake without overlifting the front. Impressive!


Cya
 
WB and his weight confiuration helps not to many hang there weights out to the limit they keep them near the bumper , whats easier to lift 50lbs at yr chest or with yr arms straight out?
 
(For example in my area) Evan Davis truck sits pretty high and works great. Milbys truck was slamed alot lower in the rear than the front, and it also worked great. When I lowered mine 2in in the rear I quit breaking output shafts.(Took some of the angle out of the driveline.)
 
Persingerpulling said:
(For example in my area) Evan Davis truck sits pretty high and works great. Milbys truck was slamed alot lower in the rear than the front, and it also worked great. When I lowered mine 2in in the rear I quit breaking output shafts.(Took some of the angle out of the driveline.)
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If im correct Jason (PTPULLINCHASSIS) built Milby's truck.....Evan truck just works, but with the lift kits that are being used by most of the chevy guys you dont have to worry about the centerlinks as much cause of how they drop the steering....
 
SmokeShow said:
Hears something that gets me... The gassers have obviously been at it a good bit longer than these diesels n it seems a great deal of em are severally raked n they don't typically weigh as much as us.

However, the pro mods gassers n mod/open diesels all seem to be pretty low slung and more or less pulling linearly rather than so high and pulling down as much in the back.

Just wondering what the diff makes of pulling more horizontally than vertically in the rear?

My guess is enough load will be on the rear in the lower stance without having to jack the rear up for even more mechanical advantage to loading the rear. It also reduces the teeter totter effect of raising the front too much with the rear all jacked up.


Yes, I did notice that Wakeman was sporting a pretty radical rake BUT it didn't seem like his front pulled up too high. More or less just pulled level like most dmaxes do. That tells me he's got the susp. dialed in pretty good to heavily load the rear via rake without overlifting the front. Impressive!


Cya
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What do those gassers run for a hitch? Are they pulling from somewhere way far forward?
 
Rods said:
Hmm U must have not seen Troys truck
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I have seen Troys truck. You are right he does run a stout rake. He also run 6 mud tires. Seems to work for him

Look at Tomac, Burkhardt, Evan Davis, Scrimager, and Cooper. They all pull well and run very little rake.

Ryan Milby, Scott Blair, Terry Coppess, Sledpuller, (back when pulled) are good examples of low rake Dodges.

I messed around a fair bit with rake and found the low and near level seems to hook the best for me. I have a Reece style hitch
 
JOHNBOY said:
I have seen Troys truck. You are right he does run a stout rake. He also run 6 mud tires. Seems to work for him

Look at Tomac, Burkhardt, Evan Davis, Scrimager, and Cooper. They all pull well and run very little rake.

Ryan Milby, Scott Blair, Terry Coppess, Sledpuller, (back when pulled) are good examples of low rake Dodges.

I messed around a fair bit with rake and found the low and near level seems to hook the best for me. I have a Reece style hitch
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remember though not all those trucks are the same, for instance, Evan's being lifted adds all kinds of variables in......no 2 trucks will ever like the same setup even when built the same especially something with as wide a tolerance as a factory truck.....
 
I have had good luck with the rake that I can get out of the truck. I drop the T-bars and then hang my weight out front. then set up my suspension stops, solid if the class allows 1" if needed. the truck seems to level out and run smooth down the track and do well.
 
low enough in the rear, that when all the weight is on the front the truck sits level. when the rear sets up with a rake the sled has more leverage to pull the front end upwards. just an opinion from a gasser.
 
tthomp said:
low enough in the rear, that when all the weight is on the front the truck sits level. when the rear sets up with a rake the sled has more leverage to pull the front end upwards. just an opinion from a gasser.
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and it seems to pretty well work with your truck......especially when its beating up on diesels and weighs a few hundred pounds less than them......
 
I think the guys with the low front end is giving up hitch hight when the front end raises...the hitch goes down...thats bad!!!

Iv always looked a pullers that do it for a living, like stated above mod gassers and mod diesel's, the front end don't raise and they pull about level...maybe a bit low in the back. thats weight transfer!
 
SmokeShow said:
Yes, I did notice that Wakeman was sporting a pretty radical rake BUT it didn't seem like his front pulled up too high. More or less just pulled level like most dmaxes do. That tells me he's got the susp. dialed in pretty good to heavily load the rear via rake without overlifting the front. Impressive!


Cya
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At Platte County Pull. Wakeman was running his hitch very close to the rear axle (dont know the exact measurement but like 20") He read the rules and took advantage of a loop hole.
 
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