will this set up work good

strokersmoker

strokersmoker

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just wondering if aney body running close 2 this set up
2001 6 spd
PDR stupid 13mm p-pump
ddp custom inj
PDR port polish and cam
.120 lines
industrial injection 71 mm turbo
haisley comp puller clutch
schied water meth kit

love 2 hear aney other toughts:thankyou2:
 
yup sounds pretty good, but sounds like you might need lots of extra stuff to go with the power and rpm that combo is gonna turn. (unless you already have it and didnt list it)

a good bit of head work, fire rings, studs, springs?
 
the clutch is a pulling only clutch (wont shift over 2000 rpm)

you wont need .120 lines

And id use a 5 speed, 6 speeds seem to break a lot of mainshafts and parts are harder to comeby

you wont be able to use water injection in the street class

meth on high horsepower engines = holes in pistons

im not sure what kind of camshafts pdr has or what pistons your going to use but Brian Block has some really awesome cam profiles for slep pulling some that wont require fly cuts

and like getblown said there is a lot more that needs to be adressed so this is kind of general advice
 
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Go to a pulling motor shop for the injectors, pump and cam, such as Scheid or Haisley's, and if you are going to pull in the street class ditch the water (as previously mentioned) and get an S400.
 
strokersmoker said:
just wondering if aney body running close 2 this set up
2001 6 spd
PDR stupid 13mm p-pump
ddp custom inj
PDR port polish and cam
.120 lines
industrial injection 71 mm turbo
haisley comp puller clutch
schied water meth kit

love 2 hear aney other toughts:thankyou2:
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This might sound unpopular to the internet arm chair puller crowd but you can beat about 90% of the trucks out there pulling in the street class with a VP44.
When I say 90% I mean that in a national sense because most will not or cannot hang with top trucks from Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, Michigan, Missouri (and Tom from Cali!)

Look at the top 10 frequent finishers at the DHRA pulls and that will give a represenation on what will run well.
You will see that some run P-pump's, VP44's and Dual CP3's.

If you want to build a truck that will get you WINS locally do this (VP44) (I'll start out with a lower budget build):
1.Hot Rod VP44 (scheids, II)
2.Aurora 5000
3.South Bend 4200 Dual Disc
4.7x.018" injectors (diesel darryl, haisley, eep or scheids)
5.Diesel Darryl traction bars
6.17x9" wheels w/33x12.50 tires
7.weight rack, pulling hitch, move stock hitch forward, suspension blocks
8.AFE intake
9.Fass fuel supply (150 or 200)

6 speeds are great out of the box for pulling(go ahead ask me how I know)...they will last you forever unless you have a motherfu--er of a track bite on you and then it just breaks the mainshaft. 5 speeds just grenade.
 
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JW3 said:
This might sound unpopular to the internet arm chair puller crowd but you can beat about 90% of the trucks out there pulling in the street class with a VP44.
When I say 90% I mean that in a national sense because most will not or cannot hang with top trucks from Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, Michigan, Missouri (and Tom from Cali!)

Look at the top 10 frequent finishers at the DHRA pulls and that will give a represenation on what will run well.
You will see that some run P-pump's, VP44's and Dual CP3's.

If you want to build a truck that will get you WINS locally do this (VP44) (I'll start out with a lower budget build):
1.Hot Rod VP44 (scheids, II)
2.Aurora 5000
3.South Bend 4200 Dual Disc
4.7x.018" injectors (diesel darryl, haisley, eep or scheids)
5.Diesel Darryl traction bars
6.17x9" wheels w/33x12.50 tires
7.weight rack, pulling hitch, move stock hitch forward, suspension blocks
8.AFE intake
9.Fass fuel supply (150 or 200)

6 speeds are great out of the box for pulling(go ahead ask me how I know)...they will last you forever unless you have a motherfu--er of a track bite on you and then it just breaks the mainshaft. 5 speeds just grenade.
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If this is going to just be a sled puller (limited street driving) then a slightly bigger charger than an A5000 could be used. Also you can pick up a little by going to .120 injection lines, use a HRVP44, and experiment with injectors, I liked the 7x.020's. Also get a Redline Box. Justin has a valid point with using the SB clutch, you can still drive it on the street.

-Tom
 
i dident plan on it being street legal. and the head was goinh 2 have o rings, valves and i was going 2 get studs.a fass systen
 
i was conserding a schied pump,and i want a p pump onj the truck how big is the s400 bigger than 71mm and how will that spool. i want 2 run with the super street
 
strokersmoker said:
i was conserding a schied pump,and i want a p pump onj the truck how big is the s400 bigger than 71mm and how will that spool. i want 2 run with the super street
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Hang on a minute, I would build a DHRA Street Diesel class truck and run it for one or two seasons, then decide if you want to move up. I would use an S400 with a 76mm inducer and have a bushing made to get it to 2.8". As far as the pump, If your gonna p-pump it then go with Scheid's pump, but I would put a Scheid HRVP44 on there for at least the first season. Remember too, you can sell the electronics that you buy, when and if you decide to go p-pump in the future.

I would not plan on going out and running with the SS trucks right away, get your feet wet at a DHRA national event in the SD class then decide.

-Tom
 
strokersmoker said:
i dident plan on it being street legal. and the head was goinh 2 have o rings, valves and i was going 2 get studs.a fass systen
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Its not about being street legal because just about anything is legal on the street. But it is nice to be able to drive your puller on the street and enjoy it rather than just letting it sit somewhere waiting to hook.

Like Tom says get your feet wet in the DHRA street and see if you can hang with the big boys then make your decision if you can do super street.

You will LEARN much more pulling in the street than the superstreet. In the street 2.8 class its a crapshoot as to who is going to win and there are about 10 or 15 trucks that can win the event where as in super you have like 3 or 4 trucks that have a shot at winning and the other 4 are basically street trucks trying to get by as super trucks.

Oh yeah dont forget to get a green bedliner!!
 
If you want to build a superstreet truck then build one. If you build smaller then try to sell stuff later you only get part of your money back. If your going superstreet you'll need a bigger charger or two. And no matter what class you should buy a Haisley or another real pulling clutch. Even Peter @sbc will tell you his clutches aren't slipper clutches and real pulling trucks sometimes need to be slipped out of the hole if you want to win. And if you want to drive a Haisley comp then just take the weights off and it will drive fine.
 
If you DO build a truck for Street DHRA, I'd wait as it looks like we're in for some rule changes next year.
 
CPMac said:
And no matter what class you should buy a Haisley or another real pulling clutch. Even Peter @sbc will tell you his clutches aren't slipper clutches and real pulling trucks sometimes need to be slipped out of the hole if you want to win. And if you want to drive a Haisley comp then just take the weights off and it will drive fine.
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Where do people come up with this BS?????

Peter's clutches work pretty darn good for us in the sled pulling role and we hook about every weekend here in Indiana (the center of the diesel truck pulling world)....never seen you around. Oh yeah and we do slip ours plenty in a high gear I might add!

I guess my truck with 40 hooks on it doesnt have a real clutch in it.


What did you place at Indy?:hehe:
 
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JW3 said:
Where do people come up with this BS?????

Peter's clutches work pretty darn good for us in the sled pulling role and we hook about every weekend here in Indiana (the center of the diesel truck pulling world)....never seen you around. Oh yeah and we do slip ours plenty in a high gear I might add!

I guess my truck with 40 hooks on it doesnt have a real clutch in it.


What did you place at Indy?:hehe:
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WHAMMY!!!!


-Tom
 
Tcolesanti what class do u pull in or isit just a play truck. that u hook at fairs and stuff. and how much bigger can u go than a 71 mm turbo
 
My truck is definatly not "just a play truck". I have to run DHRA SS class when I go to national events. You can go a lot bigger that 71mm for an inducer but that is also going to depend on what internals you have in the motor.
 
thats what i figured. so if i did go with this setup or real close would it be competive in street class would ibe competive or would i need more furl, air what do u guys think
 
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