Truckers, lets see your rigs!
- Thread starter Mr.T
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THA MAN!
Our driver has been here about that long...Luckily, he doesn't like crap like that or he wouldn't be happy with me...
That's too much
Chris
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malibu795
2wd numb nut
Trailer ? And corisponding heckling that will most likely ensue...
Boss tried to savalage a 48' SD it cracked between the spreads.. it's now a 10+30, what would be draw backs of getting a used 48' SD. Cut the neck off removing 8-9' then putting the neck back on.. and swapping axles for tandem 12k/15k with EoH brakes.
As setup in the picture probably be able to gross 32-34k 20k axle plus 12-14k pin weight.. the negative with trailer in the picture.. I could easily over load any single axle setup.. say a long 20k load would do that..
Ideally I'd use a 48' aluminum SD Trailer as a starting point. They are usually 8-9k tare for a 48'
down side I think they are one piece main beams on fountaine, Macs, east, Benson.. which pose a problem for removing the neck shortening the lower deck and lower the upper deck..
Pros whole unit would be 9-10' shorter than dragging a 40' GN aka manuverabilty.
alot more flexibility on load placement
Substantually stronger than any current GN on the market
Cons
Whole conversion,
Screwing up the whole neck area..
Boss tried to savalage a 48' SD it cracked between the spreads.. it's now a 10+30, what would be draw backs of getting a used 48' SD. Cut the neck off removing 8-9' then putting the neck back on.. and swapping axles for tandem 12k/15k with EoH brakes.
As setup in the picture probably be able to gross 32-34k 20k axle plus 12-14k pin weight.. the negative with trailer in the picture.. I could easily over load any single axle setup.. say a long 20k load would do that..
Ideally I'd use a 48' aluminum SD Trailer as a starting point. They are usually 8-9k tare for a 48'
down side I think they are one piece main beams on fountaine, Macs, east, Benson.. which pose a problem for removing the neck shortening the lower deck and lower the upper deck..
Pros whole unit would be 9-10' shorter than dragging a 40' GN aka manuverabilty.
alot more flexibility on load placement
Substantually stronger than any current GN on the market
Cons
Whole conversion,
Screwing up the whole neck area..
chevota84
New member
Westerns are pretty light and have steel frames, might make it easier for the conversion. Have you talked to any of the manufacturers about just building what you want?Trailer ? And corisponding heckling that will most likely ensue...
Boss tried to savalage a 48' SD it cracked between the spreads.. it's now a 10+30, what would be draw backs of getting a used 48' SD. Cut the neck off removing 8-9' then putting the neck back on.. and swapping axles for tandem 12k/15k with EoH brakes.
As setup in the picture probably be able to gross 32-34k 20k axle plus 12-14k pin weight.. the negative with trailer in the picture.. I could easily over load any single axle setup.. say a long 20k load would do that..
Ideally I'd use a 48' aluminum SD Trailer as a starting point. They are usually 8-9k tare for a 48'
down side I think they are one piece main beams on fountaine, Macs, east, Benson.. which pose a problem for removing the neck shortening the lower deck and lower the upper deck..
Pros whole unit would be 9-10' shorter than dragging a 40' GN aka manuverabilty.
alot more flexibility on load placement
Substantually stronger than any current GN on the market
Cons
Whole conversion,
Screwing up the whole neck area..
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malibu795
2wd numb nut
Not in a couple years.. and at the time the dealers/MFG reps just blew me off..
Question is will they put EoH brakes on their Trailers? Meritor has quadralogic disc for axles up to 20k
Will they Put 12k/15k axles under it vs STD 20k?
Air brakes... Sean couple people do electric over air brakes.. but haven't seen a decent write-up on it.
Allow me to have spring brakes incase something fails. Vs EoH I loose the line I've lost all brakes
Meritor pan17 brake system is 13" ADB rated at 15.5k for 17.5 rims ..
17.5/19.5/22.5/24.5 wheels/tires combos are available.. obviously 22.5 are the most common.
I'm getting in more of a fine line area with a class 5/6 truck and 30-40k trailer. I'm not hitting capacity limit like I was when I was at 26,000 limit. Boss is pretty good at not sending anything over 20k at me.. but IDK how much stuff is between 20-30k non OD
There's one company that makes a 10k/40k 3" ball GN
The 2 5/16" GN usually maxes out at 9K/30K
Una goose, out of Indiana, makes a 3" GN that rated for 20k/40k
Seeing alot of hotshot/LTL guys ordering up trailers with 15k axles, towing them with 4500/5500/6500 trucks
Basically single drop with upper deck low enough to run on a cab n chassis and run flat
Crossman has a 15k axle option, haven't asked if they have a coupler capable of 40,000lb gross Trailer weight..
I mentioned to Mark at Crossman about the idea of dropping then neck down with a deck just above the top of the Jack's... He wasn't too thrilled about the idea....
2" Kingpin is always an option... IDK if or where there's a weak link area for a GN running a slip tube kingpin coupler in place of the ball coupler.
With ELD stuff coming out looks like market is going to get tighter/worse before it gets better.. seams both TL and LTL market is flooded with trucks and alot of idiot steering wheel holders....
I don't see needing said Trailer but don't want to be caught with pants down and no idea/plan
hotfarm1066
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Trailer ? And corisponding heckling that will most likely ensue...
Boss tried to savalage a 48' SD it cracked between the spreads.. it's now a 10+30, what would be draw backs of getting a used 48' SD. Cut the neck off removing 8-9' then putting the neck back on.. and swapping axles for tandem 12k/15k with EoH brakes.
As setup in the picture probably be able to gross 32-34k 20k axle plus 12-14k pin weight.. the negative with trailer in the picture.. I could easily over load any single axle setup.. say a long 20k load would do that..
Ideally I'd use a 48' aluminum SD Trailer as a starting point. They are usually 8-9k tare for a 48'
down side I think they are one piece main beams on fountaine, Macs, east, Benson.. which pose a problem for removing the neck shortening the lower deck and lower the upper deck..
Pros whole unit would be 9-10' shorter than dragging a 40' GN aka manuverabilty.
alot more flexibility on load placement
Substantually stronger than any current GN on the market
Cons
Whole conversion,
Screwing up the whole neck area..
If the other axle is still available I'd throw it in front of that rear one. I think I understand your question on the neck?? Were you wanting to turn the front into a gooseneck, right?? Get a good on-board air unit and go electric/air or rig up an air hitch.
malibu795
2wd numb nut
No clue on the other axle... Said Trailer in picture is going to be a hay Trailer..
Avg pickup/MD (4500/5500) run a 33-36" hitch height for GN Avg semi runs 48-50" hitch height
For me to redo a semi Trailer I either have to make a tall hitch or lower the neck of the trailer.. both my LMM and the FL60 I'm working on will have 31-34" hitch height
Air supply is easy.. either electric air pumps or pull a supply of the tow vehicle..
What I'm at loss to is how does one control regulated brake air psi to apply service brakes. Via voltage variant..
EoH does it by having the motor stall out to HYD psi. Less voltage less psi
Electric brake use variable voltage in the magnetic field of the magnets less voltage less field less grabbing..
What can I use to variable regulate air pressure via a variable voltage input?
malibu795
2wd numb nut
So how does a truck that has no air brakes control service air brakes on a trailer?
Ram12vcummins
New member
I agree on no electric air compressor. If running air brake axles the compressor prob won't be capable of meeting requirements for building air fast enough.
Can you buy a compressor to fit your truck? Only thing I can't answer is what type of valve you'd require to do the work of a foot valve on a air setup truck. Personally I think your going to be paying a lot of money for a custom trailer. Not sure what the gain is. Would running a class 8 truck not just make more sense? Are laws less lenient on smaller setups?
chevota84
New member
I'm just saying I wouldn't trust my life to a China electric air compressor. Some sort of mechanical setup would be much more reliable. Realistically, your best bet is to just get the heaviest electric brake axles you can find or run everything on air, my vote would be for air.. Some sort of electric/juice/air hybrid is just going to be a nightmare.
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chevota84
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That's what I mean, Hung Fu Charlie air compressor gives up going down the highway and there's going to be lots of smoke and not a lot of control. Finding one that runs on 12v and has the cfm isn't going to be easy either.
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RockinRam96
Active member
Got a little polish working and started bringing this 30 year old paint back to life.
Oh we went pulling, too. I was the test pulled at 283 ft. My dad was the second puller, pulling 293 ft. I turned down my first run and came back to pull 294 ft. Trucks ran great. May have a video later in the week.
Kinda disenchanted with pulling this season. Rather just go to local car shows.
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Oh we went pulling, too. I was the test pulled at 283 ft. My dad was the second puller, pulling 293 ft. I turned down my first run and came back to pull 294 ft. Trucks ran great. May have a video later in the week.
Kinda disenchanted with pulling this season. Rather just go to local car shows.
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