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poorboycummins

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I have an 06 5.9 that was wanting to add efi live and was wondering what kind of a learning curve there is? Is it user friendly as long as you make small changes or is it better to let a pro do it for you? Would like to here from someone how has learned it on there own or had a class.

Thanks in advance
 
Knowing what I know now, I would have paid a pro for tuning. Especially now that the autocal is out. It could be the best thing that ever happens to common rail diesels. Just learning to use it will be enough of a chore, and you will see results much faster than tuning your own truck through trial and error. Searching forums for info in old threads gets old, the info always stops short of what you want to know. Efilive will leave you pasty and red eyed in front of the computer like a teenager on a porn binge, and answering never ending calls asking if you have a smoke tune. There are several vendors on this site selling autocal, just pick one and go with it:beer:
 
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Knowing what I know now, I would have paid a pro for tuning. Especially now that the autocal is out. It could be the best thing that ever happens to common rail diesels. Just learning to use it will be enough of a chore, and you will see results much faster than tuning your own truck through trial and error. Searching forums for info in old threads gets old, the info always stops short of what you want to know. Efilive will leave you pasty and red eyed in front of the computer like a teenager on a porn binge, and answering never ending calls asking if you have a smoke tune. There are several vendors on this site selling autocal, just pick one and go with it:beer:
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That is so true and funny is h_ll. Its been a year of self teaching w/trail
and error with very little sleep. But I got it, truck runs better than new. LOVE EFI Live and there Team they are the best!
 
Thanks for the replies. Is there any other big difference between the autocal and the v2 other than being able to write your own tunes? I would like to learn so I would know what it is going on or if I had trouble with something down the road. Is there a tuner that you would recommend? Thanks again
 
The V2 is a tool that, along with the EFILive software is capable of a lot of things that 90% of us will never use. The Autocal gives the tuner the ability to use their V2 on your truck without actually being there, and it gives you the ability to have real custom tuning without having to buy the whole V2 and invest the time to learn how to use it. The key thing they have in common is datalogging. You load the tune, take some logs, email them to the tuner, they can see if adjustments are needed. If your setup changes in the future, they can adjust for that. I don't know if they make changes by email or if the autocal needs to be sent back, but either way, it beats having to figure it out yourself. By figure it out I mean, staying up all night with 3 computers going at the same time comparing logs that you spent all day recording.
 
I have been tuning trucks with EFI Live since 2006, started with duramax and then on to cummins. I have tuned many, many trucks yet I still learn something almost everytime I live tune one. That being said, all of us professional tuners have put countless hours in on the street, dyno, track, etc. to try and build the knowledge and experience to really dial in a truck. If you want to learn how to tune your own truck then just be prepared to spend a lot of time, do a lot of head scratching and some nights when you can't sleep wondering what changes to make to get the desired result. If you decide to go with an autocal, you will get the result of all those hours that we have spent learning to do this without the worry of doing something wrong. In the end it really depends on how much time you want to devote and what end product you want.
 
If you go with the autocal are stuck using one programmer or can different tunes from someone else be load on it? Not saying that one tuner wouldnt be good but just to have options. This is a new to me just trying to figure out what would be best for me. Can't you see what the truck is doing with a laptop and the v2 like monitor rail pressure in real time! What all can the software on the computer do other than tune? Sorry for all the stupid questions. Thanks again
 
Autocals are locked to what ever tuner you purchase them from. So, if you want to buy tunes from different people then you need a v2. The scan tool software works identical with either a V2 or an autocal, you can watch any parameter that is reported by the ecm and compare actual to desired values. In the future we hope to be able to do injector kill tests, contribution tests, and other diagnostic tests like we can with the duramax.
 
I do all of my own tuning and while starting from scratch and learning the software is slightly difficult but it can be done. I didnt go to any classes or pay for any type of tuning help.

I probably have over 300 hours in my tuning, so it is some what time consuming but fun at the same time.

There is a lot of info out there that will get you pointed in the right direction. So if you decide to tune your self you shouldnt have to much trouble. If you have an understanding how a internal combustion engine works you will be just fine.

Besides, when or if you tune it yourself just think of how proud you will be to say, I do my own tuning when someone ask's.
 
Phale do you use a dyno to tune with or just data logging? Do you help out your customers if they decide to tune there own?

I've played with the efi live demo with a duramax but don't have a stock cummins tune to play with.

Just kinda curious how the data logging works.

Dodge74- how did you start out with just making small adjustments and going on from there?
 
We use both, for remote customers we do mainly data logging unless they want to put it onto the dyno. When live tuning a hot truck that we really want to dial in we dyno tune it for power, then take it to the road to dial in the street manners. I do offer advise and help as much as possible, but in the end your results will be determined by if you get it or not. Some people catch on really quick, some take a while, and others never get a total understanding of what it takes to tune a truck.
 
Yeah, thats pretty much it.

And looking at all of the tutorials while making adjustments to my tune.
 
I might to make a trip to Knoxville too see you phale not to far away. And see which would be the best for me.
 
I would say it would be best to do both. If you dont know where or how to start, paying a pro to do it would be very beneficial to you and would get you off to a good start. Then play with it, learn some about it, and make some of your own stuff. That way, if you have trouble with a tune, you always have a good one to go back to. Best of luck to you.
 
I've thought about that too. That way you could have best of both worlds. If I can get the hang of it. I hope I'm one that can catch on pretty quick but if not I guess it would be that big of a deal. Thanks for your input.
 
Give us a call and we can get something set-up for you. Either way you go, I can get you set up with what you need and then you can go from there.
 
PM me your email address and I will send you a stock file that you look over in demo mode to help you make up your mind.
 
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