EGR Cooler Delete & More

pstrang

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Howdy Guys, here's another long post to the forum that will hopefully help someone else.

I pulled the top of my engine apart and did a number of things, most notably, the EGR Cooler delete. I didn't have any prior problems, just satisfying a little PMS that built up over the winter. :hehe: I used this resource extensively since I'm not a mechanic: https://www.motorcraftservice.com/pubs/content/~WS5O/~MUS~LEN/20/S5OMAIN.HTM

List of modifications for this project: 1) EGR Cooler Delete, 2) HPOP 1-piece fitting, 3) Turbo Reconditioning, 4) Wrapped exhaust manifolds & uppipes, 5) Turbo insulating wrap and downpipe, and 6) Replaced Engine Coolant. All these done at 41.5k miles.

1) EGR Cooler Delete : I've been running EGR-free pretty much the entire life of the engine. I just finally decided to take the cooler off I wasn't using. I researched a lot before this one. There are kits out there for outrageous prices :bang, but I could do it myself of hundreds less. Some folks chop up their cooler to weld new fittings, but I chose to keep my stock unit intact. I did have to pay a guy $100 to weld the intake manifold (cast aluminum isn't easy to weld), cut the passenger uppipe EGR cooler input and weld a plate over it, and for the fitting you see pictured. To re-route the engine coolant, I also purchased a 1990 - 2001 Acura Integra Gates Radiator Hose Price: $6.74 Qty: 1 Part #: 18701. I had to cut a little length out, but otherwise a perfect fit (see the picture). BTW, the hose runs from the new fitting on the intake manifold to the oil cooler.

2) HPOP 1-piece fitting : while you have the turbo off, it was highly recommended to install a bracket kit to hold the 2005+ HPOP 2-piece SCT quick connect fitting together (see http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articles/article-06-10.php). However, while shopping for this kit, my ford dealer told me that's been discontinued. The updated part number is 4C3Z-9B246-C which doesn't have a bracket anymore, but a new 1-piece fitting (see http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articles/article-07-08.php). BTW, the ford dealer was $60; the local International dealer had the equivalent kit for $70.

3) Turbo reconditioning : Again from the good guys at Ford Doctors, http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articles/article-06-05.php. I couldn't find any 3M surface reconditioning kit, but Lowes had a little kit that was similar.

4) Wrapped headers : While I had everything apart, I decided to wrap my exhaust manifolds and uppipes. The concept is hotter exhaust = faster gases = turbo spinning faster. It also 'should' be more efficient because less thermal/BTU loses between the engine and the turbo. The parts I got were: 2x Thermo Tec Gen 2 Copper Exhaust Wrap, 50 ft by 1 inch, 2x Thermo Tec Copper 11oz. Coating, Thermo Tec Snap Straps 12 pack 9 inch, and DEI Thermal Tuning Products Stainless Steel Locking Ties 8" (8 per pack). I had enough ties, but I liked the Thermo Tec style much better. The DEI ones didn't seem to hold as tight.

5) Turbo Insulating Wrap and Downpipe: DEI 10113 DEI Exhaust Wraps - Turbo Insulation Kit (Universal). I followed instructions, worked great. See pictures. The kit has plenty for the turbo and the downpipe wrap.

6) Since I drained half the coolant for the other jobs, I decided to replace my coolant. I chose the Chevron Delo or Texaco ECL (the red stuff, nitrate free?). But I didn't want to mix the Motorcraft generic Gold with the good stuff, so I had to try and drain all the motorcraft gold I could. I drained from the radiator, the large hose on the bottom, block plugs (the passenger side required removal of the starter), and my air compressor. It was hard to tell how much I got out because so much spilled on the floor, but I thought I got around 7 gallons out of the 7.5 capacity. However, when I filled back up, I could only get 5.75 gallons back in. :( Oh, well. Also, I decided not to flush the coolant system since I've been running a coolant bypass filter since 10k miles.

Before doing this, you'll need some gasket / o-ring kits. Ford dealers overcharges for these, so check ebay. I did intake gasket kit (3C3Z-9433-BE) (also had turbo oil fitting replacement gaskets), the fuel bowl kit (3C3Z-9C165-AA), and the oil filter bottom o-ring (3C3Z-6A831-AA). Actually the bottom oil filter o-ring didn't fit very well (a little big). I stuffed it in there, no leaks yet, but I'll keep an eye on it. Recall that the top o-ring comes with a new filter.

I also replaced my oil (I run Mobil-1 Full Syn 5W/40...very, very nice), oil bypass filter, oil filter, coolant bypass filter, stock tranny bypass filter, and cleaned my air filter..pretty much everything I could think of (except fuel filters which I did a few thousands miles ago).

Results:

Wow, took a number of cranks to get the HPOP primed enough to fire the injectors. But once it started, no issues since. It's running quieter, smoother than before. I didn't expect this, but I'll take it. :rockwoot:

EGTs are same as before, even with the wrapped headers. But it does take a lot longer to cool down the EGTs before I shut off. I was also hoping for reduced turbo lag since I wrapped the headers, but I don't notice any difference.

I was hoping for some mileage gains, and so far, I'm impressed. I pickup up around 1.5-2 mpg during my commute. 60 mph, 24 miles, 8 stop lights....22 mpg (rainy, slight headwind). Mileage changes a lot with the weather, so I'll keep an eye on this. So far, very, very happy.

Some of you might know that I've had the 1800-2000 rpm turbo droan. I was really hoping this list of modifications would kill that. Well, it didn't kill it, but it is significantly reduced. So that's better than nothing.

It was a lot of work for an amateur hobbyist, but well worth it. I'm glad I did it! It took me two weekends and a few evenings after work. BTW, if someone could afford it (I couldn't :(). You should definitely do a return regulated fuel system while you're into the engine that far.
 

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Looks good. You should also see a slight increase in mpg. I talked to the guys at techline coatings a couple months ago and they have been doing a bunch of testing. Generally they see about a 10% increase in mpg, when the whole exhaust is coating. I'm asumming that wrapping everything would produce the same results.
 
Was it difficult changing out the HPOP fitting with the new 1 piece design?

I'm getting ready to do it myself as my HPOP pressures drop when the engine is warmed up and it has developed a hell of a rattle between 1500 and 1800rpms.
 
Since I had the turbo and pedestal off already, no it wasn't hard at all. Took maybe 30 minutes for the HPOP job, including all new gaskets that come with the kit. Starting from scratch and getting to the HPOP is time consuming because all the stuff you need to remove.

Clean around the HPOP cover before you remove it. Also, you have to be very careful not to drop anything. You're open to your engine crank. Download the Oil Pump procedure from the motorcraft manual I linked above.

Good luck. Let me know if you have any questions.
 
I'm really confused by the copper insulation... copper is an excellent conductor of heat, and it's the last thing you'd use to keep heat from going someplace else... Is the wrap itself that aluminum oxide cloth stuff?

Everything else looks great!
 
The copper is a spray that goes around the wrap to help it out I believe. Might just be spray paint.
 
Nope, the wrap is woven with copper. You can see it. It was actually kind of messy with copper particles falling everywhere. There was also a fair amount left in the bucket (I used it to get the wrap wet).
 
you say that it takes longer for the EGTS to cool down..do you mean since you deleted the EGR now it takes a longer wait time to get the temp down below 300*? or the other way around it cools down alot quicker? Im thinking about doing this tomorrow and see what happens. What did you do with the up pipe, do you have any more pics of that?
 
When we deleted my up-pipe we noticed an immediate reduction in EGT's. Especially low end.
 
you say that it takes longer for the EGTS to cool down..do you mean since you deleted the EGR now it takes a longer wait time to get the temp down below 300*? or the other way around it cools down alot quicker? Im thinking about doing this tomorrow and see what happens. What did you do with the up pipe, do you have any more pics of that?

I had already been running EGR-free. I had the cooler blocked and the valve welded. I just finally decided to remove the cooler I wasn't using. The passenger side uppipe had that T to connect to the cooler. I had a guy cut that T off and weld a plate over the hole. I didn't take any pictures prior to me wrapping the pipe...sorry. But I know there are dozens of similar pictures around on forums.

My running EGTs don't seem any higher with my headers all wrapped (insulated). If anything, they are lower. I'm guessing hotter gases, less dense, move faster through the piping and exit easier.?.?

However, when I'm trying to cool down before shutting off, I did notice this takes longer. I live on a hill, so my engine is nice and warm when I get to my driveway. Outside temps are in the 60s, my EGTs are close to 500* when I park. It takes around 45-60 seconds to get down to 400*, after which I shutdown. It would take forever to get down to 300*, probably never happen in the summer.
 
Interesting... almost seems as though you've doubled your thermal mass, hence making it more timely for temperature change... I looked at the ad from thermo-tec. I still don't understand what they're claiming. Course, I don't understand the magnets in the fuel and the vortex fuel optimizer either...

I don't remember if you said above or not, but is it less hot under the hood?
 
I don't remember if you said above or not, but is it less hot under the hood?

No, I haven't commented on that. I haven't even looked into this one; never was one of the reasons for the mod. I wouldn't be able to tell either because I've never measured my under hood temperatures before. I can't tell a difference by touch.

Overall, still very happy! Runs noticeably smoother, feels quicker by SOTP, and mileage is doing better than before. :woohoo:
 
careful with that hose, doesn't look like the stock one which was a high heat application...that's my last decision..i don;t really trust standard rubber heater hose in a hot spot like that..
 
something else to ponder.....i am running egr free as well.....up-pipe delete and a welded valve....now other than just having a hose instead of a metal pipe to move coolant one place to another...what is the advantage here?

i mean...coolant goes through the empty cooler via a metal tube....delete all that and now it goes same place via a hose...other than never having to worry about tube rusting out....why do this?...why not just use the empty cooler as the vessel to transport the coolant?..is it restrictive more than the hose you used?..

i am still debating if i ever want to do this...or just run through empty cooler forever...save money
 
Yep, I hear ya. I debated those same arguments for a long time. I was running egr-free prior to that. There are a few reasons why I eventually pulled the trigger:

1) I had the 1800-2000 turbo droan that no force on earth could squash. My last options were a) removing the egr cooler which clamped to the passenger uppipe (I had a sneaky pipe blocking the flow, but it still clamped to the uppipe) and b) removing and cleaning out the turbo (reconditioning). So I was into the engine anyway.

2) The egr cooler "could" eventually leak causing coolant loss. I wasn't using it anyway and they aren't the most reliable part out there.

3) The egr cooler was a load in the coolant system (some heat xfer from the uppipe). And a big yes, it is more restrictive than the hose. I didn't know that, but after taking it off and looking at it, I'm glad it's gone. Looks like a radiator on the inside.

Hope that helps.
 
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