P 7100

i belive they can be adapted to work, but i have not done it. the oil feed is different and a few other things.
 
It is different?

I heard, the pump housing is always same as long pump type is P7100, it does not matter where it was mounted (8.3 or 5.9)

But I am not 100% sure.

Different can be: cam, delivery valve+ holder, governor, plungers
 
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Your pump number 837 is rated for 250hp at 2000rpm and 800lb-ft at 1300rpm on the 8.3. As far as what it will do on the 5.9?................Try it.
 
IIRC the Bosch P 7100 pump was used on Cummins engines as well as Mack engines, tuning the pumps is identical I have been told. I would think that so long as it will mount up and does not have a different firing order you will be good to go.
 
DWitcher said:
Your pump number 837 is rated for 250hp at 2000rpm and 800lb-ft at 1300rpm on the 8.3. As far as what it will do on the 5.9?................Try it.
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Well its been a few months since I've melted something down......I guess Im due. I wonder what I should do for timing???? Should I just lock both pins and bolt it on??? How should I adapt the hx40 to the 5.9 man.........or maybe use the stock turbo and the 40 as a compound.........I think I have turbo off of a 400 Mack somewhere. Yep its scrap steel for X-Mas again this year :ylsuper:
 
That pump on the 8.3 was set at 11*. Your kidding with the stock and 40 as a compound set right? Install a 10 or a 100 plate and a set of 3gsk's in it. What do you have for injectors?
 
DWitcher said:
That pump on the 8.3 was set at 11*. Your kidding with the stock and 40 as a compound set right? Install a 10 or a 100 plate and a set of 3gsk's in it. What do you have for injectors?
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Yes I was kidding about the compound set up(saw that question asked on another fourm but with 2 hx35) what I have is a stock 1994,by stock I mean a 100 plate, 4" exh and a home brewed air cleaner. Now here is my plan. The first thing Im going to do is kinda eyeball the pump shafts and make sure they look close before I pull the pump. If it does bolt on, use a baseline of 11*, stock injectors, fuel plate and afc far back , hx40 and try to tune it from there. If all seems good I wanna try 370's , 100 plate more timing and twins. But I need to see how much fuel this things going to dump first,if it even lites up. Any advice????
 
get it put on a pump stand and see what kind off cc's it'll push with different modifications.
 
oldsmokey97 said:
get it put on a pump stand and see what kind off cc's it'll push with different modifications.
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It takes the fun out of it, the pump shop is only 25min away and they could tell me anything I needed to know. I wanna here from the hardcore grassroots backyard builders,the guys who been there, broke it and made it better. The guys who think taking a pump off a 505ci engine and putting it on a 359 seems like a good way to upgrade a stock pump.
 
I know for a fact it will bolt up. There is a core 8.3 out there somewhere with a 5.9 160hp on it.:rolleyes: . I think putting it on a test stand is a great idea. We could all use the info.
 
Billysgoat said:
IIRC the Bosch P 7100 pump was used on Cummins engines as well as Mack engines, tuning the pumps is identical I have been told. I would think that so long as it will mount up and does not have a different firing order you will be good to go.
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Dont forget a few years on IH, and Ford(New Holland).
 
Thankee for the additional info, I did not know about those two :rockwoot:
 
Here's one on a DT466, consequently has a #0 plate full forward:evil , star wheel adjusted, timing advanced, and 2 clix on the gov springs. So, if you were looking to buy a Med duty IH truck, get a 93-95 rated at least 210hp. Any less (advertised)hp, and you'll need to swap out pistons & junk. Yes, you can even use a 3k GSK.
 

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DWitcher said:
I know for a fact it will bolt up. There is a core 8.3 out there somewhere with a 5.9 160hp on it.:rolleyes: . I think putting it on a test stand is a great idea. We could all use the info.
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I was most worried about the shaft size and taper.....You have run a 505 pump on a 5.9???? I hate to say it...but over the years I have pitched so many 8.3, 5.9 and EM7 Mack pumps and turbos it now makes me want to cry.The P pump from a Mack is kinda different, its a right side mount and is driven by a timing advance unit........well I guess I can try to get it on a stand next week, BTW the front cover is stamped 215hp its a Recon motor so I dont know what to expect....but it did run every bit as good as our turned up 250's
 
The black is 94´ dodge ram pump and the grey is 8,3L cummins pump.
Soon I will open the both pumps :ylsuper: .
 

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The black is 94´ dodge ram pump and the grey is 8,3L cummins pump.
Soon I will open the both pumps :ylsuper: .
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I cant tell form the pic's is the shaft the same????
 
it looks the same, the one off the 8.3 has a nut on the end of it and the one off the dodge dont
 
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