Prostreet driveshaft

To the OP, our (up & coming) PS truck is running shortened stock rear driveshaft turning an 11"(...iirc) mark williams, this is at 885hp/1601tq, so far so good. We've only made a handful of passes like this, but placed Top 5 at the super stock race down in Fl recently. It's a 2007 2500 2wd single cab, back halved, somewhere around 6klb.

Supershafts... uhh, welcome to CompD.
 
Supershafts said:
I know they made little changes between them as for electronics and difference in stl and al and adding clutches , however i haven't had a H output with a E next to eachother, but after going back and fourth over which is better and knowing the designer says they didn't re-engineer, that means they didn't make new inputs/inters/outers and go thru all the engineering tests to make a rating they are applied with, which are the same.Unfortunately, your engineer friend is wrong, the output shaft was redesigned. The RH shafts have a governor assembly swinging and slopping around on them, the RE's have a plain shaft, I can assure you, they are not the same. I also don't believe any OEM would change parts inside a transmission without engineering analysis, testing, re-engineering, and more testing.

So i have to take his word, which is what i believe, otherwise i wouldn't have offered they are the same, however i'll be more then happy to have this discussion with him.Please do, I'll be sure to update the A618 (47rh, 47re, 48re) information on Wikipedia so your buddy has some good reference material :hehe:
Just as when i asked him about concerns with my 68 and that turned into a long discussion of why they only added more clutches to the 1st thru 3rd and took the short cut... I know nothing about the 68rfe transmission, I've never seen one in person, I don't even know how many gears they have.

I'll make sure to ask about this and find out why this is, i have no experience with a broken output, I have seen twist and things can break from many circumstances.

This isn't a pride issue, i just happen to know a engineer and I take his word. Thanks for clearing that up, I don't know many people from New York so I must have mistaken your bold NY-style confidence for pride.






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Krazeeun said:
To the OP, our (up & coming) PS truck is running shortened stock rear driveshaft turning an 11"(...iirc) mark williams, this is at 885hp/1601tq, so far so good. We've only made a handful of passes like this, but placed Top 5 at the super stock race down in Fl recently. It's a 2007 2500 2wd single cab, back halved, somewhere around 6klb.

Supershafts... uhh, welcome to CompD.
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Hey, look who came to the party.... It's Suncoast.


Do you care to comment on the transmission output shaft debate. Supershafts still hasn't been convinced there are distinct, non-interchangeable differences between RH, and RE output shafts.


Maybe you could shed some light on the subject..... Maybe a good thump on the head with an Omega shaft will bring some information to the surface. LOL
 
Supershafts said:
lol ok, you do the same



aside from the loading and unloading abuse, you still think it's the same...

So a rock crawler would be the same, and see the same as a shaft in a drag vehicle...

Are you sure? positive? Why not put a 2" shaft in your truck and let me know how that works out for you.

So intelligent around here.... oh so intelligent.

None of you tried answering the simple questions i wonder why...
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Yeah, that coming from a guy who is a dick in 80% of his threads and rarely offers useful info. And if you were to use a smaller diameter shaft, intelligent people use a tube with a thicker wall making that shaft stronger. So you can play what ever debate you want. You could have tried to help out the OP with what he gave you and offered him some tips instead of how it got handled. Either way there is good info in this thread so far.
 
Supershafts said:
lol ok, you do the same



aside from the loading and unloading abuse, you still think it's the same...

So a rock crawler would be the same, and see the same as a shaft in a drag vehicle...

Are you sure? positive? Why not put a 2" shaft in your truck and let me know how that works out for you.

So intelligent around here.... oh so intelligent.

None of you tried answering the simple questions i wonder why...
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Man, is it just you or is it something in the water up there. So let me get this straight, you think a drag truck's drive shaft takes more abuse than a true rock crawlers? If that is true then you deserve to be slapped. A drag vehicle has torque put through it from a dead stop once then it has rotating mass which helps keep it turning, on the other side of things a rock crawler is bouncing around grabbing and losing traction over and over again putting the shaft at all kinds of funky angles and the shaft has no rotating mass when it grabs so all of the force is being put through the shaft at a stand still. If you are the owner of "supershafts" that place is a joke. Why don't you answer your own question to redeem yourself. Yea I am sure it is everyone else here that is dum...when no one has your back it is probably bc you are wrong and need to open your eyes to your stupidity. good talk, see ya out there.
 
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DieselWrencher said:
Yeah, that coming from a guy who is a dick in 80% of his threads and rarely offers useful info. And if you were to use a smaller diameter shaft, intelligent people use a tube with a thicker wall making that shaft stronger. So you can play what ever debate you want. You could have tried to help out the OP with what he gave you and offered him some tips instead of how it got handled. Either way there is good info in this thread so far.
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Motoracer057 said:
Man, is it just you or is it something in the water up there. So let me get this straight, you think a drag truck's drive shaft takes more abuse than a true rock crawlers? If that is true then you deserve to be slapped. A drag vehicle has torque put through it from a dead stop once then it has rotating mass which helps keep it turning, on the other side of things a rock crawler is bouncing around grabbing and losing traction over and over again putting the shaft at all kinds of funky angles and the shaft has no rotating mass when it grabs so all of the force is being put through the shaft at a stand still. If you are the owner of "supershafts" that place is a joke. Why don't you answer your own question to redeem yourself. Yea I am sure it is everyone else here that is dum...when no one has your back it is probably bc you are wrong and need to open your eyes to your stupidity. good talk, see ya out there.
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Lets see, it wasn't me that made the stupid comparison of a drag truck to that of a rock crawler


A rock crawler has maybe half the hp and tq, it also is not launching, the abuse for a rock crawler is at 1 wheel mostly,since with vehicle angle and spring rate, trans 1st and the case gearing, how much travel per inch is present, and it's still nothing compared to a drag vehicle. (don't even start with crawl ratio re re's that has no bearing on the shaft)
Making the abuse really on 1 axle, not the shafts.

just about all rock crawlers run a 2x120 shaft, put it in your truck since the rock crawler is the end all argument

Again, put a 2" shaft in your truck.

Lets compare race boats to drag trucks re re.

All this horse**** because quite a few of you have some mental issue with answering simple questions...

If i answered my own question what would it do, i want you hammer heads to tell me what i should have in those 2 examples so you dicks (to return the use for dieselwrencher) will learn something...
Although i highly doubt you'll understand.

So what shaft should the 6800 lbs , 1480 series 11.5" rear use....
That's plenty of info for you 7 mind reading idiots

Then what should the 3900 lbs 1350 series, 9.75" rear vehicle use for a shaft..

Come on this should be simple for you wonder twins. . . . come on, who's gonna look like the dick now...
Lol re re
 
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Motoracer057 said:
A drag vehicle has torque put through it from a dead stop once then it has rotating mass which helps keep it turning
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Really, so the light goes green, 7500rpm is dumped thru the tc into the trans, you think the rock crawler is exactly the same ?
the rock crawler is off idle, in 1st, thru 4.1... so killer there
At 60' out another 800hp comes on.....i won't even get into the weight and complicate things since i can see you are a real thinker, c'mon re re you think a rock crawler is putting the same stress on there 2.120 shaft... I must be wrong, let me put a lighter 2.120 shaft in my cars and trucks so i can break them cause some dick on a forum told me a rock crawler is far more devastating, and abusive....
At 60' the RC had his foot off the gas umpteen times, all from off idle, with a whopping lets say 200 ft lbs and emptied his truck and tested his roll cage....
hello , are you awake, paying attention, winning.... re re
 
You really have no idea of what a TRUE rock crawler is. I wouldnt expect you to tho cause you haven't shown any true intelligence yet. Power to one wheel? ever heard of lockers? And you are trying to compare it to a rig that does nothing but flex on a steel ramp, I am talking about ROCK crawling where they are hopping when trying to get up a "stair case" or something similar. So your saying an extra 800hp kicks in on a 6-800hp truck at the 60' mark...now that right there is some of your smarts showing through again. I am no longer going to fill this thread up with this bs...if you feel you have something to prove then you can PM me but I know you will continue to think that you know everything...typical yankee.
 
and once again I do no know specs on driveshafts, but since you know so much why don't you answer your own question and show us your smarts...and you almost have it down with the re re, you need to re re read your posts and look how stupid you look.
 
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You are really showing your intelligence here.... you just continue to show your inept ability here...

Hammer head, you have 4 wheels, you're on a 40 degree incline and the vehicle is pointed at 2 oclock....

I don't give a flying **** if you have spools, the right rear tire IS DOING and holding all the weight, not the shaft...

So now when you don't know to take your foot off the pedal when she starts bouncing and snap the right rear axle and take out BOTH lockers....

Re re........... quickly use those misguided fingers some more...
 
Motoracer057 said:
You really have no idea of what a TRUE rock crawler is. I wouldnt expect you to tho cause you haven't shown any true intelligence yet. Power to one wheel? ever heard of lockers? And you are trying to compare it to a rig that does nothing but flex on a steel ramp, I am talking about ROCK crawling where they are hopping when trying to get up a "stair case" or something similar. So your saying an extra 800hp kicks in on a 6-800hp truck at the 60' mark...now that right there is some of your smarts showing through again. I am no longer going to fill this thread up with this bs...if you feel you have something to prove then you can PM me but I know you will continue to think that you know everything...typical yankee.
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and there you go showing your reading skills some more.
 
Krazeeun said:
To the OP, our (up & coming) PS truck is running shortened stock rear driveshaft turning an 11"(...iirc) mark williams, this is at 885hp/1601tq, so far so good. We've only made a handful of passes like this, but placed Top 5 at the super stock race down in Fl recently. It's a 2007 2500 2wd single cab, back halved, somewhere around 6klb.

Supershafts... uhh, welcome to CompD.
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Thanks for the useful real world information. I'm really leaning towards a cut down dodge shaft with yokes to match the output and rear. I'll be making a phone call to suncoast a little later in the year to start gathering parts on the trans.
 
Motoracer057 said:
and once again I do no know specs on driveshafts, but since you know so much why don't you answer your own question and show us your smarts...and you almost have it down with the re re, you need to re re read your posts and look how stupid you look.
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When asshats open there polluted with **** mouths i want them to have the 1st chance to show there intelligence and tell me what shafts i should be running. . . .

So far i would guess i should have 2.120 shafts according to your endless love of rock crawlers.

Im gonna start building them for my pro street, super stock and pro stock and pro mod customers and tell them, oh no motoracerdick says this is the best, and rock crawlers are using them....


It was several people in this VERY thread after i asked the important need to know specifics on a shaft that said basically knowing the weight and ring gear diameter that a shaft can be determined.

So lets make with the answers, i wanna see the geniuses that are going to get me killed with there stupidity
 
Supershafts said:
Lets see, it wasn't me that made the stupid comparison of a drag truck to that of a rock crawler


A rock crawler has maybe half the hp and tq, it also is not launching, the abuse for a rock crawler is at 1 wheel mostly,since with vehicle angle and spring rate, trans 1st and the case gearing, how much travel per inch is present, and it's still nothing compared to a drag vehicle. (don't even start with crawl ratio re re's that has no bearing on the shaft)
Making the abuse really on 1 axle, not the shafts.

just about all rock crawlers run a 2x120 shaft, put it in your truck since the rock crawler is the end all argument

Again, put a 2" shaft in your truck.

Lets compare race boats to drag trucks re re.

All this horse**** because quite a few of you have some mental issue with answering simple questions...

If i answered my own question what would it do, i want you hammer heads to tell me what i should have in those 2 examples so you dicks (to return the use for dieselwrencher) will learn something...
Although i highly doubt you'll understand.

So what shaft should the 6800 lbs , 1480 series 11.5" rear use....
That's plenty of info for you 7 mind reading idiots

Then what should the 3900 lbs 1350 series, 9.75" rear vehicle use for a shaft..

Come on this should be simple for you wonder twins. . . . come on, who's gonna look like the dick now...
Lol re re
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For the 6800lb truck I'd use a manual trans drive shaft with spicer non greasable 1480 joints or equivelant.

For the 3900lb truck I'd use an auto trans drive shaft with the 1410 yoke and joint up front and a 1350 or a 1410 out back. Could I b wrong? Hell yeah, I never claimed to be a know it all on drive shafts. But I know what abuse they take and am not a re re. Wow you called me a dick back. Oh no.
 
Big Blue24 said:
Hey, look who came to the party.... It's Suncoast.


Do you care to comment on the transmission output shaft debate. Supershafts still hasn't been convinced there are distinct, non-interchangeable differences between RH, and RE output shafts.


Maybe you could shed some light on the subject..... Maybe a good thump on the head with an Omega shaft will bring some information to the surface. LOL
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There's far too much hate & discontent for me to get involved in this conversation... I'll just watch from over here...

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i know i ran a 4" .083 mild steel 1350 shaft in my prsstreet truck for 2 years and its still going.
 
DieselWrencher said:
For the 6800lb truck I'd use a manual trans drive shaft with spicer non greasable 1480 joints or equivelant.

For the 3900lb truck I'd use an auto trans drive shaft with the 1410 yoke and joint up front and a 1350 or a 1410 out back. Could I b wrong? Hell yeah, I never claimed to be a know it all on drive shafts. But I know what abuse they take and am not a re re. Wow you called me a dick back. Oh no.
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So a 2.120 shaft like rock crawlers with 1480 series and i'll be fine

The other a 2.120 shaft like rock crawlers and 1410...

Thats very specific re re....

Is that your final answer, honestly it's pretty pathetic.
As would any asshats answer be going off such little useless info....

I never claimed to be a know it all on drive shafts. But I know what abuse they take and am not a re re.
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If you aren't a driveshaft guru why the hell are you getting involved and acting like a dick when i asked for 5 very simple questions to be answered
Make no mistake, you have no clue, like motoracer, he's making so much sense now it is astounding, and even more in his pm's
 
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