Well i took fourth, due to my driving error so i couldnt tell you about the payout, but i did like the way it was set-up easy access on and off the pad, seemed to run real smooth . The one complaint i have is where they measure hitch height. I never changed the truck between any pulls and i had 4 different measurements. I would have liked to been able to either measure the hitch height on the scale, or on the pad. The gravel wasnt consistant enough.