adjusting apps

duallyspeed

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I need .541 so i set it .I crack it and it wont return to .541.It gets close.Wot is always the same .372 At idle it stays at .541.What am i missing?If it stays at .541 and .372 is the apps still good? I think my pump is cooked.
 
WOT should be closer to 5 volts, the supply voltage of the sensor. You are getting .372? I think your APPS is hosed. Are you reading the voltage at the PCM on the firewall? It is hard to tighten down the sensor and keep the .541 or what ever the sticker voltage is. Just fight it for 10 minutes, you'll get it. But if the voltage doesn't go up from there, I think you need an APPS. I have an old one that has a little flutuation around 20% throttle if you need something to get you by for a while but I'd like it back.
 
I put a paperclip in the sensor and pluged it in lt blue/black tracer.turned the key on and measured it at the sensor.I also adjusted it with the idle screw.I diddnt turn the apps itself.Can i do it that way?
 
Thanks for the offer!I sent out for timbo apps.I maybe wrong but i will need it sooner or later.I love the vp when it is working and dream of a p-pump in times like these.
 
You really need to measure it at the input to the PCM from everything I've read. And it makes sense to do that to compensate for the voltage drop in the wire between point A and B. What I don't understand is why we don't read it at the ECM on the block which controls engine function. Maybe someday I'll figure that part out. Or maybe it is just a convenient place to read it.

This is how I did it:

With the key on, engine off you need to probe the apps wire to see where your voltage is currently set at.
The best location to probe the wire is on the PCM (power control module) which is located off the passenger side of the firewall.

• You want the C1 connector, this is the connector closest to the engine,
• You want the orange wire with the dark blue tracer which is pin # 23
• Voltage should read somewhere around 0.5 volts,
• At this point the voltage reading does not matter, it just has to be accurately written down for later reference.

*** TURN THE IGNITION OFF ON THE TRUCK ***




Resetting the APPS Sensor cont. page 2
(Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor)
2nd generation 24 valve trucks only.

• The apps sensor is located slightly above and a little to the left of the injection pump.

• Remove the black plastic cover that is located by your injection pump.

The two screws that are holding it are plastic, do not put any downward pressure on them or you will never get them off.

• Un do the 6 - 10 mm headed bolts that hold the bracketry in place.
(DO NOT REMOVE THE CABLES)

You will notice the apps is on the back of the bracketry that you just removed, it is held in place by 2 - 20 bit screws. These screws have a little bit of locktite on them so make sure you have a good socket and gently give a little tap with a hammer before attempting to loosen. Be very careful these screws strip very easily and you only get one shot at them.

• On the apps you will find a white tag that gives you the information on what the apps adjustment should be.

• After loosening the screws you can rotate the apps both clockwise and counter clockwise to get the adjustment you need.

• The reading you took at the beginning of the process on pin # 23 should match the white tag on your apps, if not adjust accordingly.
 
I did the test your way.Same voltage reading to a T. .541 idle .372 wot.As i understand it, unless the voltage is up and down crazy the apps are good.It is steady on idle and wot.Must be the computer on the vp.
 
.372 or 3.72 @ WOT? Something seems off with that reading to me unless I'm understanding what you're doing wrong. At WOT, I've never been able to get but around 3.65 which would put your number in the right ballpark if you've got your decimal in the wrong spot. If its not in the wrong spot, I would think something in the sensor is not right but thats just me.
 
I dont know what to say.I hope the apps is bad.I have a timbo coming.Should be here friday.
 
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