Camshaft choice

get a billet from Zach, he'll treat you right. Go big the first time, a year from now you'll be wanting to p-pump it. I spoke with him Friday night at Little River about his new grinds. Call him.
 
A cam would make a 500hp truck run that much better, I agree u should look into a turbo as well. If your going to have the front clip off and YOU want to do a better camshaft then do it! It's what u want not others, a well built cam will help even the smallest chargers but you may blow them up easier as well. I've always agreed with if you have it apart then replace it with something better. I know there are many cam hatred out there but they do work no matter who you go with.
 
The stage 3 from colt and the 181/210 from hamilton are the same cam. colt used to grind hamiltons cams. zach as some new profile that are suppose to be promising. as far as regrind vs cast, that is a personal decision that you will have to make there as been some failure with reginds, and I am sure that there will be some failures with new casting. Just my 2 cents I would call fletcher about a cam, that is where I am getting mine.
 
TMONEYDIESEL said:
It's what u want not others, a well built cam will help even the smallest chargers but you may blow them up easier as well.
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So what's the most well built cam then taylor? Because I'm pretty sure everybody would say theirs is well built. I mean, I'm not gonna go into the cam business and say hey, I'm gonna build cams...but not well.


Our big thing is, for what he seems to be looking for, his money would be better spent in the bank, waiting for more money to join it for a turbo.
 
Id through one in a good cam is one of the bext mods I have done and seen done. I would give Bill fletcher at Diesel pros a call he can set you up with a good cam and info,
 
2001shrtbedcmns said:
So what's the most well built cam then taylor? Because I'm pretty sure everybody would say theirs is well built. I mean, I'm not gonna go into the cam business and say hey, I'm gonna build cams...but not well.


Our big thing is, for what he seems to be looking for, his money would be better spent in the bank, waiting for more money to join it for a turbo.
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Hmmmm the most well built cam? I said a well built cam, but if you must know the secret, the best cam you can go with is the cam that the cam manufacturer suggest after talking to them about your entire setup and the plans you have for it.

Does he need a turbo? Yea of course, will his engine run even more efficient and stronger with a cam upgrade even while still utilizing the stock charger, yea it sure will. But if he's pulling the front end apart and has some spare cash to do the upgrade now because he will be wanting more power later then now is the time to do it.

Our big thing?? If clay wants a cam from hammy then let him all we can fo is give our opinion but end the end it's his choice and to hell with us.
 
TMONEYDIESEL said:
Hmmmm the most well built cam? I said a well built cam, but if you must know the secret, the best cam you can go with is the cam that the cam manufacturer suggest after talking to them about your entire setup and the plans you have for it.

Does he need a turbo? Yea of course, will his engine run even more efficient and stronger with a cam upgrade even while still utilizing the stock charger, yea it sure will. But if he's pulling the front end apart and has some spare cash to do the upgrade now because he will be wanting more power later then now is the time to do it.

Our big thing?? If clay wants a cam from hammy then let him all we can fo is give our opinion but end the end it's his choice and to hell with us.
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Welcome aboard Captain Obvious, unless he plans to with an extremely large single turbo, I really see no extreme benefit of a cam. But if he has his front end tore apart and he wants to flush some money down the drain on something that won't make too awful much difference on a stock turboed truck then by all means Clay, it's your money man.
 
2001shrtbedcmns said:
Welcome aboard Captain Obvious, unless he plans to with an extremely large single turbo, I really see no extreme benefit of a cam. But if he has his front end tore apart and he wants to flush some money down the drain on something that won't make too awful much difference on a stock turboed truck then by all means Clay, it's your money man.
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:hehe: extremely large single turbo?!!!! You need to think outside the box, theres a idk lets say a 99% chance that Clay will probably do a turbo down the road and will already have help from a camshaft to help his spoolup and power under the curve. Not to mention better fuel economy, helping lower his egt's etc. having a small charger on a street truck can be one of the funnest things around, not to mention if you have to tow or you are running a little buisness where that extra power down low would really help out. Now im sure we can get a list going on guys running chargers anywhere from a 62 and up that have seen really nice attributes after installing a cam and will probably tell you it was one of their best mods. Now on a stock charger truck the spool up will change and the truck will be more responsive especially if there is added fueling.

There are so many different profiles that could help him out, obviously he doesnt have to go with a big cam he can easily choose something smaller to help out his lower end and towing but would still be a good choice for a hot street truck. It would make a nice difference and he would really be able to see the difference on a aftermarket charger.

What camshaft do you have in your truck and what difference did you see? And what size turbo?
 
Phil my cam helped my 62/71/13 run a lot better and spool as quick as the 62/65/12 I used to run not to mention it dropped egts some and made the truck easier to drive through town and just all around in general.

Does he need a cam? No. Does he want a cam? Yes. So why go through the trouble of tearing his front end down twice and replacing the front seal and gasket twice when he can do it all at once and be setup for his future turbo.
 
Clay just go up to Hamilton, last time I stopped by he had a new shipment and lots in stock
 
I got one from Bill at Diesel Pros. If I was you Clay I would do it to but you still have a ton of things to do to that truck before a cam. Good luck on the decision and let us know the results if you do decide to put a cam in it.
 
2001shrtbedcmns said:
Welcome aboard Captain Obvious, unless he plans to with an extremely large single turbo, I really see no extreme benefit of a cam. But if he has his front end tore apart and he wants to flush some money down the drain on something that won't make too awful much difference on a stock turboed truck then by all means Clay, it's your money man.
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How about 2mpg difference while towing 30K lbs, and a 250* EGT drop while towing. Is that not much difference on a "stock" truck?

Keep in mind, this was on a 12v, but 24v should be similar...at least the EGT drop.

That was also a cam that Hamilton seems to talk down a lot about, so one of Hamilton's should be even better, right??

Chris
 
Dang. And here I thought this cam thread might survive without any mention of vendor bashing. ;) :poke:
 
Clay Kann i think some people just dont understand the point in going a different way to make the same amount of power. A cam is a good idea.. taking advantage of air flow just like port job does.
 
Hey meow, let's keep this civil.
Cams can make more peak horsepower if you have extra fuel and the potential for more air from your turbo. But that is the worse reason to do cam. A cam will help an engine make more power across the entire rpm range and give you a better torque curve that is much more flat. THis translates to a much better driving truck.
 
Hamilton Cams said:
Hey meow, let's keep this civil.
Cams can make more peak horsepower if you have extra fuel and the potential for more air from your turbo. But that is the worse reason to do cam. A cam will help an engine make more power across the entire rpm range and give you a better torque curve that is much more flat. THis translates to a much better driving truck.
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Agree...my 95 makes 378hp, and 998tq...torque is basically flat from 1500RPM to about 3100RPM where my governor starts to back down...might be running out of fuel on the top end too...375K miles on the stock LP might be holding it back a touch.

If I was that close to the cam in ANY truck, I'd put one in it. Power goals or not, it would get one!
Chris
 
Wow some nice opinions that just dont shoot me down. Thanks

Only thing now is the best grind for my setup. I would like something i could grow with, if thats possible.

Everyone is saying the big stick is the best, but i honestly think its to much. Correct me if im wrong.
 
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