Can I make 450/1000 ish w/o a programmer?

yeah right, 457 on stock turbo and injectors......

my bad, just called and asked to make sure.. he didnt have the juice with attitude, he used a smarty, with stock turbo, stock injectors, SB 3600 dual disc, AFE stage 2 intake, and 4" exhaust.. its an 04.5 too... if that makes any difference.
 
yeah, the CR's make a ton more power on stock injectors/turbo than our silly vp trucks
 
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