Dave Morgan Chassis seminar coming to Ft. Worth/ Dallas

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On Sat. November 22nd at Painless Performance. We will be offering a tour of our facility in the begining of the day and then will start with the class. Painless will also be providing lunch for this seminar. Come and learn about chassis set up and have a good meal on Painless. You can contact Jason Hamner by email jhamner@painlessperformance.com or you can contact Dave directly at the info below. Here is a new outline for the class. Please notice that there has been many changes to the class material.



Ask Yourself These Questions to Determine if YOU Need This Seminar ...

* Do you know how much weight transfer you are getting?
* Do you know how much load you are getting in your rear suspension?
* Can you predetermine your G-Force at the launch?
* Where are the most common areas of chassis flex?
* How can inspecting the tin work help you locate flex?
* What is frame rail shift? Which frame rail goes where?
* How can you locate frame rail shift??
* What does caster offset do?
* What is the advantage of storing energy in a suspension spring?
* How can you store energy in a suspension spring?
* How can you tell if the shocks are valved too light for a car?
* How can you tell if the shocks are valved too stiff?
* What does adjusting the shock extension rate do to a suspension?
* What does adjusting the shock compression rate do to a suspension?
* How do you install and set-up a ladder bar suspension?
* How do you install and set-up a four-link suspension?
* How do you tune with shocks?
0A* What is the Rear Roll Center and how does it differ with the various locating devices?
* Which locating device is best for your car?
* What effect does your Center of Gravity (CG) location have on your rear suspension?
* What is the actual difference between a ladder bar and four-link suspension?
* How do you determine the CG location in a car?
* What is a linear shock curve?
* What is a digressive shock curve?
* How can you determine if your problems are related to the frequency of the suspension springs?


NEW COURSE OUTLINE:

The goa l of this course is to teach drag racers how to balance their suspension combination. Some racers don't know if they are hitting the slicks too hard or not hard enough. At this seminar, they will learn how to find this out.

I. WEIGHT TRANSFER
A. Drive wheel torque
B. Wheel thrust
C. G-force
D. Determine the amount of weight transfer
II. Center of Gravity
A. What it is
B. How to locate it
C. Polar Moment of Inertia
D. Roll centers
III. A brief look at chassis flex
A. Frame rail shift
B. Chassis twist
C. Rear Housing flex
IV. A brief look at bind
A. Rod ends
B. Ball joints
C. Mechanical issues
V. Shocks and Springs
A. Storing energy in the springs
1. Advantages of a light spring
B. Sprung/Un-sprung weight
1. Catalogs and the mistakes in them
C. Leverage ratios
1. Motion ratios
D. Calculating spring rates
E. Shock absorber mechanics
1. Twin tube
2. Mono-tube
F. Reading a shock graph (force/displacement and force/speed)
V. Front suspension
A. Caster
1. What it is and what it does
2. What offsets do
3. Steering Axis Inclination
4. Caster chatter
B. Camber
1. What it is and what it does
2. What offsets do
3. Mapping camber change
C. Toe
1. Front end alignment versus four wheel alignment
2. Thrust angle
3. Dog tracking- advantages and disadvantages
D. Travel limiters
E. Bumpsteer
1. How to detect it
2. How to fix it
F. Ackerman Effect
1. Is it good or bad?
2. How can we adjust it?
VI. Rear suspension
A. Leaf springs
1. Locator
a. Instant center
b. Wheel hop and pinion angle
2. Spring function
a. Housing floaters
b. Weight jacking
B. Ladder bars
1. Swing arms
2. Pinion angle
3. Ladder bar length
4. Hardware
5. Tuning with a ladder bar
C. Fourlinks
1. Tubular Fourlinks
a. Equal-length and unequal length
b. Instant centers and maps
c. Roll steer
2. Factory fourlinks
a. Equal-length and unequal length
b. Instant centers and maps
c. Roll steer
3. Tuning with a fourlink
D. Lateral locating devices
1. Panhard bar
2. Wishbone
3. Diagonal link


To Register ...
Call Dave Morgan at (567) 242-9779 or e-mail him at staaytuned@aol.com. The price is $85/person and includes the workbook. There will be a one-hour lunch break (not included in the tuition) and short breaks will be taken every hour. The seminar will run from 9am to 6pm.
Visa, Master Card and American Express accepted.
 
Look like a very informative seminar. Too bad you guys are in Texas.:doh:
 
Dave does seminars all over the country. I'll try to see if I can get a list of his schedule for you!
 
I wish I could make this seminar! I've always wanted to go to one of his seminars. Maybe Painless can ask for some ISSPRO Engineering support at this event, so I can come down on the company? ;)

Regards,
Michael Pliska
 
Micheal, It would be great to have you here. I know you and I have talked a little when you guys were going to work with us earlier this year on some new stuff. Hey you could always talk Isspro into the custom gauges that are going to go in my car! Its for the Ronnie Sox Foundation and for Autism awareness!
 
how late can we register? I have stuff all around the 22nd but nothing on that day (yet)
 
hpprose said:
how late can we register? I have stuff all around the 22nd but nothing on that day (yet)
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You don't have to register but it is highly prefered. We are going to be providing lunch and want to make sure that we get enough food! It will also help me cover Dave's travel expenses and lodging.
 
Would this seminar be recommended for beginners that no practically nothing about chassis/suspension set-up? :doh: :D
 
imelmo said:
Would this seminar be recommended for beginners that no practically nothing about chassis/suspension set-up? :doh: :D
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There will be a little that would be over your head but if you have any idea about any thing on suspension then this will really help understand all the fundamentals. It certainly wouldn't hurt! A lot of the theory is going to be taken out and set up so that its more understandable by real world situations.
 
Shoot, i know nothing and would love to go.

Got anything around Indy, cincy or Louisville area???
 
FireMed, I don't know right now but I would have to say that there will be a class in one of those cities. Dave is still working on his schedule but will send it to me as soon as he gets it done.
 
Here is some more info.

"Dave Morgan Saved Me a Bunch of Money" (Tex Ooten, Norwalk, Ohio)
* Racers are learning the value of Dave Morgan's knowledge
* New Setup Workshops to begin this year
* Seminar registration information at the end of the announcement


Okay, okay, I understand this is a weird year. The economy is a mess, gas prices are high and the country seems to be lacking a sense of direction. All this makes your racing future seem less certain, right?
So what are you going to do?
Stop racing?
Forget your passion?
Slip away from the sport you love?
NO WAY!

You’re going to get smarter about your drag racing program and ride out these rough waves.
I'm here to help you improve your program. In fact, I've always tried to be available to help Sportsman drag racers gain knowledge, improve their win/run ratio and their cost/run ratio. For nearly four decades, my focus has been aimed at helping drag racers succeed at their passion.

Take the Ooten brothers for example...
Tex Ooten and his brother, Greg, attended one of my seminars in Lima, Ohio. Greg had just finished a '69 Javelin and Tex was building a '70 AMX. Both brothers gained from my seminar. Greg reduced his development time and quickly made his car competitive. Tex learned ways to streamline his building project, saving money and time.
Here's your chance to improve your racing project and save money.

I've expanded the topics to include front suspensions because drag racers are beginning to understand just how important the front suspension is. All the interest has been in the rear suspension so they can hook the car up, but now they realize they have to control the car after the launch. That's when the inter-relationships between the front and rear suspensions come into play.
Adding the extra content will be tricky as the seminar is already packed with information. My plan is to tighten-up on the chassis structure presentation and to streamline the shock and spring presentation.
This is the 13th winter that I've been offering seminars to the drag racing public. My presentation is designed for older people, those who have not been to school in years. That being said, the seminar is intense so I recommend all students to get a good night's rest before the seminar and have a good breakfast before attending. A long drive before the seminar will only make students tired and then they'll begin to miss parts of the fast-moving seminar.

SETUP WORKSHOPS:
In selected locations, I'll teach racers how to setup a chassis using actual cars. Racers will get a chance to learn these techniques in a hands-on environment. This is an embrionic program so if you have questions, please call me at 567/242-9779. In the workshops we will...

* Establish corner weights with springs and ballast
* Locate the Center of Gravity
* Map Instant Centers
* Square the rearend
* Align the front end


LOCATIONS, HOSTS AND DATES:
(More dates and locations will be added)
* Denotes special Set-up Workshop

Dallas, Texas: Painless Wiring 817/455-1405 November 22
Denver, Colorado: TC Performance 720/974-0888 January 17-18 *
Lebanon, PA: Scott's Transmissions 717/273-9944 January 24
Detroit, MI: Racefab 989/692-7223 January 31
Dayton, Ohio: Kammer & Kammer 937/237-8675 February 7
Lima, Ohio: TBA 567/242-9779 February 14
Columbus, Ohio: TBA 567/242-9779 February 21
Chicago, Illinois: Alston RaceCars 847/395-3500 March 7-8 *
Norwalk, Ohio: TBA 567/242-9779 March 14
Indianapolis, Indiana: Joe Barscz Racecraft 317/892-4054 March 21
Newport News, VA.: Williams Perf. AutoWorks 757/591-7110 March 28-29 *


MORE TESTIMONIALS:
"It is almost unheard of these days for someone to offer this much knowledge and experience for such a bargain price. What would take many years of trial and error at thousands of dollars cost can be learned in a day with clear and concise explanations and demonstrations. I highly recommend anyone needing a direct path to a better understanding of how to diagnose and solve their car set-up to enroll in the nearest available Dave Morgan Seminar ASAP."
Mike Peters, Wichita, Kansas

"I always refer back to your Dave's book and the things he has taught me, everytime something isnt making sense. Pro Mod cars are very tricky, the difference between fast and junk is so small in some cases! The problems are usually woven together with other problems... crazy! I do love the challenge of it though.
Randy Minadeo, Cleveland, Ohio

"It was an honor to have Dave in the same room as me. It was quite a thrill to have the opportunity to talk with him. He gave me a rekindled inspiration to correct my car."
John Carter, Grand Bend, Canada

"Dave Morgan is years ahead of his time because he's so willing to help racers with their suspension problems. I honestly believe that he is the best at what he does."
Gary Reese, Chassis Builder from Sheffield Lake, Ohio

"Before I went to Dave's seminar, I was afraid to even touch my ladder bar rear suspension. Since then, I have gone through the car and picked up two-tenths in the quarter, improved my 60-foot times and my reaction times are killer. I am no longer afraid to tune on my suspension and I'm bringing home a lot more round money."
John Wooley, Reynolds, Ga.

"I had a pretty violent Altered that I ran at Beaver Springs Dragway. Not only did Dave show me how to calm the car down and go straight, I learned a ton about fourlinks. After that, I was voted 'Most Improved Driver' at Beaver Springs Dragway."
Scott Richenbach, Lebanon, Pa.
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"I had a pretty unique combination and I think going to Dave's seminar shortened the time it took to sort out the car. He has a unique ability to draw pictures in your mind, and then make them move. I think he's the best teacher in drag racing."
Tony Melvedt, Concord, NC



Ask Yourself These Questions to Determine if YOU Need This Seminar ...

* Do you know how much weight transfer you are getting?
* Do you know how much load you are getting in your rear suspension?
* Can you predetermine your G-Force at the launch?
* Where are the most common areas of chassis flex?
* How can inspecting the tin work help you locate flex?
* What is frame rail shift? Which frame rail goes where?
* How can you locate frame rail shift??
* What does caster offset do?
* What is the advantage of storing energy in a suspension spring?
* How can you store energy in a suspension spring?
* How can you tell if the shocks are valved too light for a car?
* How can you tell if the shocks are valved too stiff?
* What does adjusting the shock extension rate do to a suspension?
* What does adjusting the shock compression rate do to a suspension?
* How do you install and set-up a ladder bar suspension?
* How do you install and set-up a four-link suspension?
* How do you tune with shocks?
* What is the Rear Roll Center and how does it differ with the various locating devices?
* Which locating device is best for your car?
* What effect does your Center of Gravity (CG) location have on your rear suspension?
* What is the actual difference between a ladder bar and four-link suspension?
* How do you determine the CG location in a car?
* What is a linear shock curve?
* What is a digressive shock curve?
* How can you determine if your problems are related to the frequency of the suspension springs?

NEW COURSE OUTLINE:

The goal of this course is to teach drag racers how to balance their suspension combination. Some racers don't know if th ey are hitting the slicks too hard or not hard enough. At this seminar, they will learn how to find this out.

I. WEIGHT TRANSFER
A. Drive wheel torque
B. Wheel thrust
C. G-force
D. Determine the amount of weight transfer
II. Center of Gravity
A. What it is
B. How to locate it
C. Polar Moment of Inertia
D. Roll centers
III. A brief look at chassis flex
A. Frame rail shift
B. Chassis twist
C. Rear Housing flex
IV. A brief look at bind
A. Rod ends
B. Ball joints
C. Mechanical issues
V. Shocks and Springs
A. Storing energy in the springs
1. Advantages of a light spring
B. Sprung/Un-sprung weight
1. Catalogs and the mistakes in them
C. Leverage ratios
1. Motion ratios
D. Calculating spring rates
E. Shock absorber mechanics
1. Twin tube
2. Mono-tube
F. Reading a shock graph (force/displacement and force/speed)
V. Front su spension
A. Caster
1. What it is and what it does
2. What offsets do
3. Steering Axis Inclination
4. Caster chatter
B. Camber
1. What it is and what it does
2. What offsets do
3. Mapping camber change
C. Toe
1. Front end alignment versus four wheel alignment
2. Thrust angle
3. Dog tracking- advantages and disadvantages
D. Travel limiters
E. Bumpsteer
1. How to detect it
2. How to fix it
F. Ackerman Effect
1. Is it good or bad?
2. How can we adjust it?
VI. Rear suspension
A. Leaf springs
1. Locator
a. Instant center
b. Wheel hop and pinion angle
2. Spring function
a. Housing floaters
b. Weight jacking
B. Ladder bars
1. Swing arms
2. Pinion angle
3. Ladder bar length
4. Hardware
5. Tuning with a ladder bar
C. Fourlinks
1. Tubular Fourlinks
a. Equal-length and unequal length
b. Instant centers and maps
c. Roll steer
2. Factory fourlinks
a. Equal-length and unequal length
b. Instant centers and maps
c. Roll steer
3. Tuning with a fourlink
D. Lateral locating devices
1. Panhard bar
2. Wishbone
3. Diagonal link


To Register ...
Call Dave Morgan at (567) 242-9779 or e-mail him at staaytuned@aol.com. The price is $85/person and includes the workbook. There will be a one-hour lunch break (not included in the tuition) and short breaks will be taken every hour. The seminar will run from 9am to 6pm.
Visa, Master Card and American Express accepted.
 
How come some are two days and others are single days?


Thanks for the schedule. Ill check my schedule and set one up.
 
I don't know on that one. I would email Dave or call him about that one. The class here is only one day.
 
malibu795 said:
you can make dayton feb 7th :poke: i plan on that one
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i think i might do that. Im working nids that weekend so ill take sun for vacation and run up there sat morning. as long as class starts at 9. i get off of work at 6.

jeremie

Ill bring the dunkn doughnuts if youll bring the baileys for the coffee:rockwoot:
 
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