How to have a one injection event common rail

Marco did this,...

Early on in his testing I recall Marco did this with the Smarty programming and had a negative result. He lost 100hp. He posted on this issue.
 
mdavlee said:
Last I heard the Bosch standalone was ~$8500.
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That's it...I was expecting like 15-25k bucks. So why don't more people plop down the coin and stop complaining about the dodge ECM holding them back? Not trying to be a smart ass or anything but guys are spending close to that on a transmission.
 
huh... I have nowhere near 8500 in a trans and for most people that is the most money they will spend on a trans is 4500 or so and thats hard for people to let go yet alone 8500....I think there are about a handfull of people who would spend that kinda coin for it.. also why not someone just buy the damn thing and we hore it out.. is it like efi live just plug and play or is it a replacement ecu?
 
$8500 only gets you the Bosch Jr. I can't remember the serial numbers for them but you used to be able to get the big one that was everything you need and more. I think the jr. limits your RPM to 4500 or 5000. It's not a plug in and go like EFI Live, it's more like a spend 100+ hours building a harness and getting all the correct information entered into the computer just to make it run. Tuning would be a whole different ball game.
 
Hopefully the EFILive support for CR's is out later this year. It's still in development.

Pat has been pestering the EFILive crew endlessly for CR support. :D
 
Turbo Performance said:
$8500 only gets you the Bosch Jr. I can't remember the serial numbers for them but you used to be able to get the big one that was everything you need and more. I think the jr. limits your RPM to 4500 or 5000. It's not a plug in and go like EFI Live, it's more like a spend 100+ hours building a harness and getting all the correct information entered into the computer just to make it run. Tuning would be a whole different ball game.
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This makes much more sense as to why more people don't just throw the money at it.

And as far as spending a 4500 instead of a little less than 8500 on a trans I find that hard to believe for anyone that is building a tranny that would be needed to run this ECM and tuning....:bang

I mean isn't this something that guys looking to make 800-1000hp are after? When I was looking into an auto transmission for my truck I got prices ranging from 5000 all the way up to 7200 for a top of the line bullet proof tranny to hold almost as much HP that a street/track truck could throw at it.
 
Not a Bosch, if Bosch was that great you would see more people running them. The one that Scheids had on display made 1000hp on twins and still only went to 4000rpms, we can do that now w/o spending 4k on one.
 
bdp said:
Not a Bosch, if Bosch was that great you would see more people running them. The one that Scheids had on display made 1000hp on twins and still only went to 4000rpms, we can do that now w/o spending 4k on one.
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I doubt that people aren't running the bosch because it's not a good piece of equipment, I think it's more along the lines of there aren't that many people out there that can justify spending that much money, then still having to build a harness and tune from scratch. If it was a plug and play, there would be a ton out there. $.02
 
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LOL... Guess thats the honest answer... It's been confirmed as a rumor.

I figured as much...

I saw one post on the EFIlive forum that said they had NO interest in working on the Dodge...

"No plans to do Dodge, to be honest I would not even know what ECM they use. Most gas Dodge ECM's are made by Motorola! There is handhelds for these already right?, it will only be a matter of time before someone does a PC editor for them.........or, soon as they might say."

Then after another person asked about it they stated "EFILive will no longer be announcing ECM support we are working on until it is ready for Beta. Sorry."

That last quote has me thinkin' though... They didn't DENY it... So???
 
the Dodge software is proprietary so it is only rumor. If anyone were to some how make a EFI out of Dodge's software... they'd likely head to the slammer.

GM and Ford softwares aren't proprietary meaning at some point they sold the rights to it.
 
OIC... Guess that clears that up.

Sure would be nice though... But like my grandfather always said... "Want in one hand and S*** in the other... See which one fills up faster..."
 
triton said:
Don't know about building a harness from scratch. They sell the connectors needed. Here's the pricing......

http://www.bosch-motorsport.com/content/language2/html/3690.htm

This is the mac daddy for our trucks and you can read what it does. There's no single events. It's price.... $14,500. !

http://www.bosch-motorsport.com/pdf/ecus/diesel/MS_15.1.pdf
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I understand they sell the connectors, but that only gets you from the computer but you still have to get from the computer to the sensors, decipher which ones are compatible with the bosch, and find out which pins go to which connectors. I don't think there is a truck/vehicle/boat out there that will utilize every pin on each of the 64 pin plugs, I think there are 4 plugs, so that comes out to 256 pins that you have to figure out whether you need them or not. Sounds to me like a pretty time consuming ordeal which I don't find very appealing after dropping 15K. For that kind of money, that box should be able to do things I can't mention on this board due to censorship. LOL
 
For fifteen grand you could have one hellatious p-pumped common rail. I mean seriously, if you're willing to spend 15 grand on this thing, then it's more than likely a competition only rig. So the ability to turn a common rail down on the street is then taken away because, well, you don't drive on the street. Call me dumb, but I'd rather have a strong running reliably p-pumped common rail over having to deal with the headache of hooking up and tuning that ecm. The way I understood it when I saw it at the PRI show last december was that it was plug and play. Well guess not now huh.
 
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