How to turn up a 3406E?

jfaulkner said:
Lol! Wow $179 for a $0.05 fuel temp resistor?
I call BS on the "Australian files" as well!
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But it is made by someone, so that makes it special.

I think I would stick to the factory HH file over anything, and I'm not sure where the 750 file would even come from, highest C16 file is 630hp, and I'm not even sure if that is a Aussie file or something out of a fire truck.
 
No, there's higher than that available for the engines, but they're off-road applications.

Standard Oil field spec for a Series60 Detroit is 685 horse. Which is up from 630 in the 12.7L industrials.

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Just went through arragement numbers on SIS for truck and industrial app C16 and 3456 engines, highest I came across was 660hp, and to say that one of those programs would work in a truck is a long shot. Anything higher is C18 range. Just throwing in factory programs without know what hard parts they came with is dumb.

For example, I have heard that antrim has a 365hp file that when put in a true 550hp engine will produce 725 at the ground, it all has to do with the parts you engine has in it.
 
I'll get the sn for you when I get home. I took a picture of the data plate. It was a 7 hundred something rating I'm pretty sure though.

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1-5-3-6-2-4 said:
I'll get the sn for you when I get home. I took a picture of the data plate. It was a 7 hundred something rating I'm pretty sure though.

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Sweet, I will forsure look at it, and in all honesty it's hard to tell what is actually out there and what has been published by CAT.
 
The highest c18 industrial that I recall working on was 990 horse. Didn't get that number though.

Sometimes when you're tired wet and cold working on the deck engine of a drilling rig with the push standing over your shoulder asking are you done yet every 5 seconds, important details like sn shots get overlooked. :what: :p

Oh hard parts are a must. If you don't match the cam, injectors and jugs to the file. It won't make what it says it is. Might be high or low. But it won't be accurate that's for sure.

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SmokinCAT said:
For example, I have heard that antrim has a 365hp file that when put in a true 550hp engine will produce 725 at the ground, it all has to do with the parts you engine has in it.
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Kurt told me the same thing. People have tried flashing C18 files in a C15 and lost power. C18 has larger injectors and shorter duration, damn details get you every time! Lol
 
jfaulkner said:
Kurt told me the same thing. People have tried flashing C18 files in a C15 and lost power. C18 has larger injectors and shorter duration, damn details get you every time! Lol
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Yep, take the 550hp 5ek, it has higher flowing injectors than any of the 600hp engines, and back to the C18 the injectors in the 950hp truck engine flow almost 30% more than a 550 injector.
 
2008 C15 717hp

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2008 Series60 665hp

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I've heard of guys running a 3176 ecm on their 3406e. Any huge benefits to this or has it been surpassed since ecm tuning has come so far?
 
LReiff said:
I've heard of guys running a 3176 ecm on their 3406e. Any huge benefits to this or has it been surpassed since ecm tuning has come so far?
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Better off with ecm tuning, the 3176 runs at different rpm's than a c15. They'll make more peak power but they run kind of goofy and don't work real well in real life.

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jfaulkner said:
Lol! Wow $179 for a $0.05 fuel temp resistor?
I call BS on the "Australian files" as well!
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"Most" truckers don't want to cut up their factory wiring harness so they would prefer to just have a plug and play adjustable harness. And the fuel temp resistor only does so much... Think what you want about the australian cat calibrations. They're not impossible to obtain
 
YouTube - Oak creek

This truck had the 725hp australian file and the adjustable harness with altered full throttle setting and full load setting numbers. Did 698hp and 2410tq on a chassis dyno
 
atvracn08 said:
"Most" truckers don't want to cut up their factory wiring harness so they would prefer to just have a plug and play adjustable harness. And the fuel temp resistor only does so much... Think what you want about the australian cat calibrations. They're not impossible to obtain
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Don't need to cut anything on a 2 wire sensor, just unplug it and stick a resistor in.

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chevota84 said:
Don't need to cut anything on a 2 wire sensor, just unplug it and stick a resistor in.

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Just fooling the fuel temp sensor isn't worth that much hp, you've got to fool the map also. Again fleets and lots of owner ops want to just plug in and have it look factory. They don't like to have random sensors unplugged under the hood and open to the weather.
 
Heres a "nonstock" C15 that a guy brought in and wanted run on the dyno. Did a consistant 838HP to the rears.

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this was the chassis dyno

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atvracn08 said:
Just fooling the fuel temp sensor isn't worth that much hp, you've got to fool the map also. Again fleets and lots of owner ops want to just plug in and have it look factory. They don't like to have random sensors unplugged under the hood and open to the weather.
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Map sensor won't give you anything but smoke. Fuel temp is 40-50hp

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