ITPA 2.6 class

itpa is a competition circuit, there for more money has to be spent, brush pulls is for people with stock trucks to modified ones to go have fun!
 
update on itpa turbo rule for 2.6

this is from Ric Scrimger

The exducer rule will leave to much on the table to compete with the DHRA rule package. The turbo will need to be 2.6 inducer, no bushing and Mark is looking over the final turbo rule, all other rules are done and we just need to meet with as many as possible to agree on them. I haven't been sleeping, the first draft was sent out a week or so ago for review.

I will try to set a time over the next 2 weeks to get together. All the 2.6 guys need to call Chris and he can contact me with the number of people and we can set the meeting location based off that.
 
Bosshawg600 said:
I wont be the most competitive truck, but ill have one running at the top of the heap. Ill be lucky if I have 5K in parts in the motor. I will have minimal labor on the cost because Im doing everything my self.

Oh and Ric, Jon and Tony are all around the 900hp range....why is that impossible to Daily drive????
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it can be done cheap but you say you'll be in the top of the heap with 5G Hmm,

so what are you saying ? must be runnin a stock pump with DV's and springs and not reworked. stock pistons ,cam, head, stock exhaust manifold.... come on top of the heap??? otherwise it would be more like this

manifold 450 ?
headstuds 400 ?
gaskets 450 ?
machine work for the rings 200 ?
non billit cam 450 ?
pump work 1200 ?
injectors 350 ?
turbo 1500-2100 ?
60lbs springs 150?
retainers 300 ?
now that will be around 6000+ just to be the normal 2.6 truck the top trucks will of coarse have big cams good pistons and a good 13mm pump witch would get ya into the 11,000+ range witch is still cheap. but hey good luck with your 5000 top of the heap truck hopefully you prove me wrong
 
Oh and here is what Ill have in my truck.......

Decked and fly cut pistons (20 over)
Haisley Puller cam
Port and Polished head
bigger valves
big fire rings
main studs and girdle
8x16 injectors
A1000 LP
S465 turbo and 3pc. manifold
and a few other things (HD push rods, tappets, stuff like that)

Now a 13mm pump isnt in the budget yet, but ya those are expensive!

I got all this through a little wheeling and dealing, so i saved a LOT of moeny doing that.

I can see 30-40K in a truck. I just dont think its needed. People that spend that kinda money either have too much money to throw around or dont have time, experence or the will to build their own stuff......but hey, more power to'em

anyways, we have blow Casemans post out of the water....lets keep this in the ITPA 2.6 class direction.
 
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Bosshawg600 said:
Oh and here is what Ill have in my truck.......

Decked and fly cut pistons (20 over)
Haisley Puller cam
Port and Polished head
bigger valves
big fire rings
main studs and girdle
A1000 LP
S465 turbo
and a few other things (HD push rods, tappets, stuff like that)

Now a 13mm pump isnt in the budget yet, but ya those are expensive!

I got all this through a little wheeling and dealing, so i saved a LOT of moeny doing that.

I can see 30-40K in a truck. I just dont think its needed. People that spend that kinda money either have too much money to throw around or dont have time, experence or the will to build their own stuff......but hey, more power to'em

anyways, we have blow Casemans post out of the water....lets keep this in the ITPA 2.6 class direction.
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If your gonna put a girdle on it, and fly cut pistons, get a billet cam. Talk to anybody, and I am sure they will agree. Taking the chance on a cast cam breaking, and wiping out your engine is bad.
 
zstroken said:
If your gonna put a girdle on it, and fly cut pistons, get a billet cam. Talk to anybody, and I am sure they will agree. Taking the chance on a cast cam breaking, and wiping out your engine is bad.
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x2, I tried to steer around it but when I realized what I would loose if a broke a cast cam it spoke for itself........... just my 2 pennies.
Brandon
 
Especially if u plan to move on to a 13mm p ppppppppppump over time.
Brandopn
 
Bosshawg600 said:
Oh and here is what Ill have in my truck.......

Decked and fly cut pistons (20 over)
Haisley Puller cam
Port and Polished head
bigger valves
big fire rings
main studs and girdle
8x16 injectors
A1000 LP
S465 turbo and 3pc. manifold
and a few other things (HD push rods, tappets, stuff like that)

Now a 13mm pump isnt in the budget yet, but ya those are expensive!

I got all this through a little wheeling and dealing, so i saved a LOT of moeny doing that.

I can see 30-40K in a truck. I just dont think its needed. People that spend that kinda money either have too much money to throw around or dont have time, experence or the will to build their own stuff......but hey, more power to'em

anyways, we have blow Casemans post out of the water....lets keep this in the ITPA 2.6 class direction.
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so what you are sayin is you have more than 5 grand in it. even if it was gotten at a deal. I have built many and have used many used parts but what you have can't be done for less than 5 bills.
 
$2000 clutch...yes, but thats not part of the total cost of the motor.

Ok, maybe Ill bump it up an say 7,000 just to add up small stuff i havent gotten yet.
 
97' CTD said:
x2, I tried to steer around it but when I realized what I would loose if a broke a cast cam it spoke for itself........... just my 2 pennies.
Brandon
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I have fly cut pistons and a seriously ground cam without any problems at all. Which was ran with a 13mm Scheid pump. I dont think they are that big of a deal. Or maybe I was just lucky. But 2 of us did they same set up. One with twins and one without. Both fine from us.
 
2Tone12V said:
I have fly cut pistons and a seriously ground cam without any problems at all. Which was ran with a 13mm Scheid pump. I dont think they are that big of a deal. Or maybe I was just lucky. But 2 of us did they same set up. One with twins and one without. Both fine from us.
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I ran a cast cam on a 13mm pump, never had any problems, but I had big $$ in the driveline, front and rear driveshafts, big $$ axles, etc, etc. I have seen a few trucks that had a cast cam, and it really isnt the rpm, it is the rpm spikes that wipe things out. If you look at the damage that could be done, and your gonna have the engine apart anyway for changing the pistons, it would be nice insurance to update to a billet cam.
 
2Tone12V said:
I have fly cut pistons and a seriously ground cam without any problems at all. Which was ran with a 13mm Scheid pump. I dont think they are that big of a deal. Or maybe I was just lucky. But 2 of us did they same set up. One with twins and one without. Both fine from us.
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I agree 100% that it is doable but I just did not like the RISK factor.
Brandon
 
80k to 100k seems a little high but its not way off base. If someone had unlimited funds I could see 80k in a 2.6 truck, you would have to be payin someone to do the work and changing almost everything( which is crazy) but possible. I paid 25k for my truck and have at least 15k in it, im maybe mid pack of the serious 2.6 trucks( mine own fault "VP44"). I could easly put an other 15k in it and not be in the top 3, but im a workin stiff and dont have the $:owned:
 
15k would get you a very strong running common rail truck that would keep you pretty close to most of the field.
 
brushpuller said:
Ok guys I can see that iv started somthing here... First i consider a daily driver a truck that i can hook a goose neck trailer to and hall maybe 18-20,000 lbs Across the state if i have to wile geting good fuel milage. And my egt's at 1100 or so. Maybe that is possable to do with a 2.6 turdo and fueling???? Cause your right i havent driven a cummins with that much turbo on the street cause i have no need for that much turbo on the street. So brings me to the Money, For most people we would have to buy another truck to build a 2.6 ( cause the one i have is set up for my street driving ) and all the little hi dollar goodies it takes to turn a stock truck to a truck that runs up front would be HI!!!! maybe not 80-100grand,but after 30-40 grand its all the same to ME WAY OUT OF MY PRICE RANGE!
Glad ya all liked the " FAX " thing!!!
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I have a 6.7 that I pull a 30ft. flatbed gooseneck trailer and a backhoe that weighs 21,000 by itself plus the trailer. My egt's stay down and get decent fuel milage, and i'll probably run in the 2.6 class next year and will have about $10-12,000 in it that's including the the tranny.
 
INDIANAFARMBOY said:
I have a 6.7 that I pull a 30ft. flatbed gooseneck trailer and a backhoe that weighs 21,000 by itself plus the trailer. My egt's stay down and get decent fuel milage, and i'll probably run in the 2.6 class next year and will have about $10-12,000 in it that's including the the tranny.
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Now thats a truck!!! A truck that can hall like that and run top 5 or so in the 2.6 class is a kick a$$ truck!!! Thats what im talkn bout!!! :clap::rockwoot:

Kinda pricy,buyin a new truck to start with BUT... VERRY COOL!!! :bow:
 
brushpuller said:
Now thats a truck!!! A truck that can hall like that and run top 5 or so in the 2.6 class is a kick a$$ truck!!! Thats what im talkn bout!!! :clap::rockwoot:

Kinda pricy,buyin a new truck to start with BUT... VERRY COOL!!! :bow:
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Thanks for the compliment. I'm not here to argue I posted to simply prove, a truck that is setup right can be competitive as well as very very streetable or in my case USABLE. One thing is to say, Yeah I drive mine on the road, and it's another to say, Yeah I pull 20-30,000lbs. with mine on a daily basis. You just have to have it setup right.
 
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