p-pumped R/T dakota

DTanklage

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is anyone on here running around in one?

how hard was it to fit the cummins in that engine bay?

does it req a custom oil pan?

i rememeber yrs ago gail banks built one

story had it he towed a small trailer all the way from so cal to the salt flats in utah

swapped the tires out and set the land speed record for a p/u truck

swapped the tires back and towed home

you know how there has always been conv kits to put a small blk in a luv truck...

someone should make em for a cummins dakota

that would have to be a fun truck
 
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Why would someone make motor mounts for something that bolts in place with factory hardware??
 
joefarmer said:
Why would someone make motor mounts for something that bolts in place with factory hardware??
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X2.

From my memory 94-02 ram and 97(?)-02 used the same motor mount locations on the frame. V6, V8, 4cyl, and diesel.

Installing a 5.9 cummins in a dakota will take some major firewall massaging.
 
Toolmanoffroad or Aaron did it and I dont think he altered the firewall at all But he did say you cant get to the bell housing bolts so to pull the tranny the whole drive line has to come out.
 
Aaron's is a 4BT, fits very well, and I'm almost positive that he didn't modify the firewall.
 
huh?

joefarmer said:
Why would someone make motor mounts for something that bolts in place with factory hardware??
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theres more to doing a conversion than just the motor mounts

stuff like tranny mount

trans adp

crossmemeber

radiator hoses

down pipe

throttle linkage

with a diesel fuel needs to be returned to the fuel tank

dont know if the stock inj dakota has a return or not?

theres a bunch of stuff besides motor mounts


i think a cummins with some twins or triples hangin outta the hood and some 14/32's tucked under a R/T dakota would be a bad ass pro street set up


wpeschel said:
Zach Hamilton has a 4b in a dakota p pumped.. That bioch gets it..
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i bet it does!

what kind of power can ya get outta a 4b?

whats the displacement with stock bore n stroke?

thanks
 
You cant reuse a stock dakota trans.

Crossmember is easy. Dakota's have a fuel return IIRC.

The rest is all stuff that depends on the engine's original application, and the trucks original engine. Your not just gonna bolt a cummins in a dakota, thats a given.


A 4B is a 3.9L. Shares almost all its parts with a 5.9.

HP depends on your wallet.
 
roachie said:
You cant reuse a stock dakota trans.
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its built, had my buddy up in oregon build it, but i was wondering about it as well

why do you say i can not use it? it will blow up or no way to adp it?

thanks for the info
 
DTanklage said:
theres more to doing a conversion than just the motor mounts

stuff like tranny mount

trans adp

crossmemeber

radiator hoses

down pipe

throttle linkage

with a diesel fuel needs to be returned to the fuel tank

dont know if the stock inj dakota has a return or not?

theres a bunch of stuff besides motor mounts


i think a cummins with some twins or triples hangin outta the hood and some 14/32's tucked under a R/T dakota would be a bad ass pro street set up




i bet it does!

what kind of power can ya get outta a 4b?

whats the displacement with stock bore n stroke?

thanks
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Huh...you mean putting that Cummins in the S10 should have been a cakewalk for Brandon? I'll be damned!
 
DTanklage said:
its built, had my buddy up in oregon build it, but i was wondering about it as well

why do you say i can not use it? it will blow up or no way to adp it?

thanks for the info
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That trans wont hold it anyway.

And the cummins wont bolt to that trans without a custom adaptor.
 
We could probably spell it out for you Don, but even if we do you will come back telling us about how you reinvented the wheel and that we are all retarded. Hell, may be we should go and do exactly what you are talking about and come up with a complete write up with bolt sizes, torque specs, and a picture of the completed project.
 
Mine was not a r/t but it was the 5.2l v8. I did not have to chop the firewall to get the 4b in, but because I put it so far back(.5 inch off of the firewall, I had to cut the cowl a bit for the last rocker cover to clear. This allows you to run only the driver side wiper. We just cut up the factory cross member and notched it for the 4b pan and then on the transmission mount we cut the factory one and mated it up to the factory nv4500 mount. As far as motor mounts we used the factory v8 brackets relocated on the frame and an cr passenger side mount. On the driver side due to clearance issues between the p-pump,-powersteering pump and the starter we used an 89 driver side mount and had to make our own engine side and frame side plates. Stock radiator, must notch the frame if you want ac. To make the gas tach work you have to cut 8 notches the same width and depth as the factory flywheel notches on the gas engine. Because the gas engine uses two inputs(crank and cam pos) you have to pull the factory distributor apart and pull out the cam position sensor. Because the cam and inj. pump rotate at the same speed you can mount that sensor on a 1998 non vent style pump shaft cover. Just drill and tap the pump shaft so that you can mount a cam pos trigger. BTW the top two bellhousing bolts are tough to get to. and in our case the engine must go in first and then the trans. And we used a basic val-air hydraulic upgrade kit. As far as sensors all of the factory v8 sensors will work just fine after some minor adapting. The alternator is the factory v8 unit, it fits right onto the 12v alternator bracket. We used an electric water pump so, there is only the alternator being driven by the pulley, this requires making an adjuster out of the bottom alternator mount(althread and a few nuts) Sorry but I don't have bolt sizes.

Hope this helps.

Zach
 
roachie said:
Installing a 5.9 cummins in a dakota will take some major firewall massaging.
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WRONG No firewall modifications required !!!!!!

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Got a picture that shows the front of the engine? How much room is there between the engine and the finny thingies?
 
Well obviously by that picture he's got in intercooler. So now I really want so see the front end and the radiator core support.
 
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