Pics on how not to build pulling traction bars

Do you pullers normally weld stuff to the frame? Last I checked that was a big no no. I think I'd make a saddle and bolt it on. I really love the 6 inch hitch pin down there. Real nice Clarke.....
 
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When some of you guys that like to run your mouth get on the track, you will learn about breaking stuff too. Until then it is wise to not talk a lot of sh*t. I know of a lot of guys that have their bars welded to the frame. Personally I think if his bars were longer he wouldnt of had the problem. We had been meaning to get longer bars, but our cousin had'nt had time to get around to it.

And what is wrong with how the truck is chained down? Sure it might be better to have the chains pulling opposite directions on the truck, but do you guys really think it is going to come off the trailer like that? Get your heads out of your textbooks, and get some common sense. It goes a long way.

Like I said, a bunch of guys that are too big of wimps to hook to the sled theirselves or run their truck down the track. It is hard to value someone elses opinion when they have no experience! Everyone who competes will go through trial and error with different things. it is easy to sit back and point your finger at someone. If you think you can do it better, put your stuff on the track.


Eric
 
Wow! :kick: If that was directed this way, I thought that not welding to the frame was common sense....but I have no experience and can't afford to break anything so I guess I'm a wimp. :D Didn't mean to push buttons, just thought it looked hokey. $.02
 
dOT LAWS STATE there must be a tie down on all 4 corners if the trailer plates is over 10klbs, at least thats the law in Indiana now, and have to dot #s on the tow truck and health card
 
Morepower02 said:
Getblown. What the heck kind of sled are you pullin in your pic?? That thing is a toy:poke: :lolly: :hehe:
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That's an eastern shore boy's idea of a slep pull:kick:

j/k I see that you put the rebel up there now
 
I was wondering when ol Eric would get to this thread. Eric, you crack me up bud. Don't take what these guys are saying to heart so much bud. Your blood pressure was rising (I know cause he had a cuss word in there and the boy don't cuss that often ;) ). You and Josh (and who ever else that helps you all) knew that wasn't a good traction bar setup, unfortunately you proved it to yourselves before you could fix it. Thats all these guys are saying, shoulda, woulda, coulda done it different.

On the stapped down truck comments. I'm curious to hear an explanation of what is THAT wrong with it that you call someone a retard for it? I see some issues and haven't ever strapped one down that way but I've seen 'em done like that a LOT and NEVER EVER have heard of one coming off, EVER. We have always strapped to the differential on the back and the lower A-arms (IFS GM truck is my only experience) on the front.

Lastly, some of you all are aweful big for your britches and down right asshole-ish for just slamming someone without hearing an explaination from them. Some of you are just too damn cocky on these internet boards and could stand to have your head removed from your asses. Little hint, Eric's probably big enough to assist you with that if you need help. ;) Funny thing is, I've met some of the cocky internet personalities in person and whata ya know, they don't really act the same way in person as they do on here. Imagine that. So either they are attempting to be humerous on here and falling short of that or they feel about a foot taller and about 100#s heavier when they are stroking that big bad keyboard.


C-ya
 
And what does your common sense tell you about pulling straight down when you are trying to hold you load from moving forward or backwards?

If something happens, that truck has a ton of movement before the chains do anything. Another thing wrong, (which most of us are guilty from time to time, is you shouldn’t tie down to the body/frame. The movement of the suspension allows the truck to move back and forth and in some instances, loosen the chain enough to come loose and fall off. When strapping down a load, whether it is a truck or not, you should never hook up to a moving part. A vehicle is best tied down by the axles. What’s even more important is the angle they are mounted at. You should always strap down a load to prevent forward, backwards or side to side movement.

That is what is wrong with the way the truck is hooked up.

As far as the traction bars, you know. I didn’t say anything and don’t plan on saying anything. No point in taking offence when you knew they there were problems; as SmokeShow pointed out.
 
Maybe i jumped the gun a little, but sometimes i get tired of hearing the internet pullers act like people are pure idiots for doing something the way they did. It is fine to disagree, but to act like someone is an idiot about something is a different story. I think Mitch will agree I am pretty easy to get along with, even if i like to argue a little sometimes. Mitch is right, the bars should have been done different, and we kind of knew that, but didnt really expect it to cause problems before we could re-make them. It doesent matter now. It is getting straightened back out Monday, and then boxed in with longer bars. Should be good to go then. Hindsight is 20/20 as they say. Your last paragraph states the kind of people i have a problem with Mitch. It doesent bother me if someone suggests something different, or even if they say they dont like how it is done, but there is no need to bash someone that hard when you dont even know them. I try to get along with everyone, but sometimes people cross the line.

hpprose: You have some good points, but i have heard it was better to strap a vehicle down by the frame, so that it cant "walk" around on the trailer when you hit bumps and stuff. When you hit a bump, the suspension compresses, and then unloads, pulling up on the axles. If you chain to the frame, it is already compressed if you do it right, and the truck shouldnt be able to move at all. Like I said, that is only what I have heard, and I can respect your post for not bashing somebody, and explaining your point.

Eric
 
You guys went on so much about the way it was chained, I had to go back and look.

I always hooked the axles, front forward slant, rear slanted back. Then a third chain for looks, somewhere else.

That way the axles dont move, and the truck suspension can work and take the shots. I almost never had to re tighten.
 
Like the old saying goes live and learn... He just had to learn the hard way that sucks! Good luck on the repair...
 
Cummins Driver said:
When some of you guys that like to run your mouth get on the track, you will learn about breaking stuff too. Until then it is wise to not talk a lot of sh*t. I know of a lot of guys that have their bars welded to the frame. Personally I think if his bars were longer he wouldnt of had the problem. We had been meaning to get longer bars, but our cousin had'nt had time to get around to it.

And what is wrong with how the truck is chained down? Sure it might be better to have the chains pulling opposite directions on the truck, but do you guys really think it is going to come off the trailer like that? Get your heads out of your textbooks, and get some common sense. It goes a long way.

Like I said, a bunch of guys that are too big of wimps to hook to the sled theirselves or run their truck down the track. It is hard to value someone elses opinion when they have no experience! Everyone who competes will go through trial and error with different things. it is easy to sit back and point your finger at someone. If you think you can do it better, put your stuff on the track.


Eric
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Eric
I apologize if my comments offended you, that was not my intentions.
I posted that trying to get a rise out of pudpuller and as you can see it worked:hehe:
 
No one here has offended me, just gets old hearing the BS from people who never compete sometimes.

I am all about some good humored ribbing though:rockwoot:

Eric
 
Sure hope this "Arm Chair Puller" stuff isn't pointed at me. With 20 some hooks this year I don't do much Internet pulling.

As far as the Traction bars heck you never know till you try right?

Chains like sleddy said get some angle to them to help hold front to back. I use to chain to the frame till I watched the truck dip under hard braking. Now around the axles and no problems.
 
I use axle straps at four corners... but wtf do I know about transporting cars
 
Cummins Driver said:
When some of you guys that like to run your mouth get on the track, you will learn about breaking stuff too. Until then it is wise to not talk a lot of sh*t. I know of a lot of guys that have their bars welded to the frame. Personally I think if his bars were longer he wouldnt of had the problem. We had been meaning to get longer bars, but our cousin had'nt had time to get around to it.

And what is wrong with how the truck is chained down? Sure it might be better to have the chains pulling opposite directions on the truck, but do you guys really think it is going to come off the trailer like that? Get your heads out of your textbooks, and get some common sense. It goes a long way.

Like I said, a bunch of guys that are too big of wimps to hook to the sled theirselves or run their truck down the track. It is hard to value someone elses opinion when they have no experience! Everyone who competes will go through trial and error with different things. it is easy to sit back and point your finger at someone. If you think you can do it better, put your stuff on the track.


Eric
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Here Here!!!:rockwoot:
 
bar3.jpg Real bars for real trucks, you can weld the frame, might be wise to weld it where it is boxed though....We do with 1406 lb. ft. of torque, nothing will bend and the truck will pull a sled like nobody's business!
 
JerrodGlover said:
Sure hope this "Arm Chair Puller" stuff isn't pointed at me. With 20 some hooks this year I don't do much Internet pulling.

As far as the Traction bars heck you never know till you try right?

Chains like sleddy said get some angle to them to help hold front to back. I use to chain to the frame till I watched the truck dip under hard braking. Now around the axles and no problems.
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hey it was fun watchin that truck bounce all over , I was gonna slap a sticker on there.... WHEN THE TRUCKS A ROCKIN DON'T COME A NOCKINLOL :hehe: :kick:
 
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