Sled Pull Results

SmokeShow said:
Big papa, I don't think y'all were only ones cause wes kuselik was going around asking if anyone had a welder cause they needed a secondary hitch & didn't have one. He hooked so I'm guessing they came up with something?
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There were a few trucks that had to fab up secondary hitches that day.
 
takedown95 said:
PPL posted the 2012 rule changes a few months back. It's right on their website.
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Here's the rule changes. I don't see anything about a safety hitch.

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My point is, why suddenly start enforcing a rule they haven't in the past? Why wasn't it enforced on 2.6? What was the deal with having a safety hitch or you can drop 200#? How does dropping 200# equal a safety hitch? You've already dropped from 8K to 7800, chances are you can't cut another 200. If you've pulled under their rules twice before with no tech issues, wouldn't you think all you need to worry about are the changes posted?
 
JIT said:
Carnage was good this year. Lots of bent traction bars and broken drive lines. Never seen a track as Tacky as this one was.
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I'm no puller and don't know com'mer from sick'em about it....but I can't imagine anyone making a track stickier than that one. It looked like the red clay on my dirt road after a rain. Playdooh'y. I haven't been to a lot of pulls in my life, but I can't imagine the frames bendin' up in the middle any more than some of the trucks that pulled.

I didn't get a lot of great pulls recorded, but here's one that turned out ok.

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My point is, why suddenly start enforcing a rule they haven't in the past? From personal experience, I know it's not always easy to tech all trucks all the time, even with good teching things get missed. Also if it's in the rules it can be enforced at anytime....unfortunately it doesn't mean it always does Why wasn't it enforced on 2.6? See previous comment What was the deal with having a safety hitch or you can drop 200#? How does dropping 200# equal a safety hitch? That one I have ZERO clue about, unless it was a comprimise of you were a dumbass and didn't read/follow the rules, but yet we still want to put on a show, so you can pull without the secondary hitch but at a 200lb penalty. What I don't understand is if the secondary hitch is for safety, why compromise?You've already dropped from 8K to 7800, chances are you can't cut another 200. From the looks of the weights on some of those trucks an extra 200 shouldn't have been TOO hard If you've pulled under their rules twice before with no tech issues, wouldn't you think all you need to worry about are the changes posted? See first quote again
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If you read the rules, knew about the secondary hitch, and do nothing about it during previous pulls and then cry about it finally being enforced....you are an idiot.

IF you had asked the proper officials about the rule and they said you didn't need to prior to coming, but then decided to enforce it when you arrived that's a tough one.

While I agree selective enforcing sucks, if it was in the rules and you did not follow them......it's on YOU. If it was something concocted AT the pull, that's a different story.

Again teching is tough, some events time/weather/etc is an issue so they do a quick visual, hitch height, weight and on the track you go, with no post tech. If you sneak something through and don't get caught.....it is what it is. If you get caught though...it's on you.

If you knew about the rule before, set up your truck to follow the rule, you have the right to protest anyone who doesn't follow that rule. If you chose not to on your truck......

It's like getting pulled over by the cops for going 20mph over and saying you only did it because the guy in front of you was going faster/same speed and you didn't pull him over....
 
No crying going on here, chief. The truck didn't get to pull because it didn't meet the rules. You're right, that's on me and I guarantee it won't happen again. I asked if there were others that didn't get to pull because of the sudden enforcement of the rule in one class. I asked 5 pertinent questions in my 2nd post. Where do you get "crying" from anything I said?

You said it, "selective enforcing sucks".
 
TS Performance Pull
Franklin, KY
May 19, 2012


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Pro Stock Tractors

FLOATING FINISH
Finished Vehicle Driver Name City, State Brand Distance
1 BARLEY GETTIN BYE SCOTT TEIPEN SEYMOUR, IN JD 265.51
2 BUCK EATER MICKEY SHORTER SULLIVAN, IN JD 244.16
3 TRUE GRIT LANCE LITTLE TUSCOLA, IL JD 186.34
4 HARDCORE HARVESTER ED ORRELL JR SHATTUE , IL IH 99.18
5 YOUNG BUCK BRAD MOSS ADAIRVILLE, KY JD Hooked/Broke

Super Farm Tractors

FLOATING FINISH
Finished Vehicle Driver Name City, State Brand Distance
1 REAL DEERE JUSTIN WAGLER MORGANTOWN, IN JD 305.78
2 THE AGITATOR BLAINE FRAKER MARSHALL, IL JD 288.16
3 RED SCORPION MAC DARNELL CYNTHIANA, KY IH 1086 285.97
4 HIGH MAINTENAN$E JOSH MILEY FRANCISCO, IN IH 278.71
5 MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE CLAY DARNELL CYNTHIANA, KY IH 1486 276.73
6 THE PERFECT STORM PETER NORTON FRANKLIN, IN JD 275.38
7 NATURAL DISASTER TAD INGRAM PENDLETON, KY JD 274.76
8 SHOWTIME CLAYTON DARLAGE SEYMOUR, IN IH 126.2

Air Dog Super Stock Diesel Trucks

FLOATING FINISH
Finished Vehicle Driver Name City, State Brand Distance
1 GOTTA HAVE IT, SHANE KELLOGG FOREST, OH DODGE 279.19
2 ROCK HARD RAM, VAN HAISLEY FAIRMOUNT, IN 97 DODGE 274.63
3 RUNNIN IN THE RED, CALVIN MILLER GUYSMILLS, PA DODGE 270.5
4 DOUBLE OVERTIME, BEN MILLER FREETOWN, IN FORD 265.06
5 SMOKNYA, ERIK STACY WINCHESTER, OH CHEVY 263.36
6 ON BORROWED TIME, SHAWN HODGES AVALLA, PA DODGE 257.86
7 SCHEID DIESEL, KENT CROWDER ATTICA, IN DODGE 247.46
8 PULLIN' TO PLEASE, BRAD DEETER COOPERSTOWM, PA DODGE 220.74
9 LIIVING A DREAM, JOSH WATSON SWEETWATER, TN DODGE 136.69

Super Modified 2WD Trucks

FLOATING FINISH
Finished Vehicle Driver Name City, State Brand Distance
1 MIDNIGHT REVENGER JARED NELSON ALTAMONT, IL CHEVY 324.88
2 MIDNIGHT GAMBLER JEREMY NELSON SIDNEY, IL DODGE 272.03
3 MIDNIGHT MADNESS JORDAN NELSON ALTAMONT, IL FORD 268.15
4 AFTER MIDNIGHT JOHN MUMMA PHILO, IL CHEVY 266.89
5 GAMBLER AFTER DARK MARK AUSTIN CHARLESTON, IL DODGE 266.87
6 PARTS CITY AUTO PARTS TONY TATUM BARDSTOWN, KY CHEVY 261.99
7 RIDIN DIRTY KEITH LONG GLASGOW, KY CHEVY 255.1
8 RASIN KANE MARK AUSTIN CHARLESTON, IL CHEVY 233.95
9 FULL THROTTLE TONY TATUM BARDSTOWN, KY CHEVY 219.38
10 MAVTV KEITH LONG GLASGOW, KY CHEVY Hooked/Broke

Air Dog Pro Street Diesel Trucks

Full Pull Distance - 310
Finished Vehicle Driver Name City, State Brand Distance
1 OFF CONSTANTLY CURT HAISLEY FAIRMOUNT, IN DODGE 305.4
2 SCHEID DIESEL BRAD INGRAM FARING, IL DODGE 293.23
3 SMOKIN TYLER DILLARD FOUNTAIN RUN, KY DODGE 280.87
4 PUNISHIN FOR PLEASURE JOSH MOSLEY BOWLING GREEN, KY DODGE 277.12
5 SUPERAM ROD TARR ROCHESTER, IL DODGE 273.25
6 GITTIN LIT JIM STEINDORF MARSHALL, WI CHEVY 273.18
7 OLD SKOOL TODD COX OAKWOOD, IL FORD 262.03
8 WHITE LIGHTNING CHRIS MUHS BIRMINGHAM, IA DODGE 258.62
9 CUMMINS KILLER WESLEY KUSILEK RIVER FALLS, WI GMC 257.9
10 12 VALVE BLACKOUT TERRY BIGGS NOBELSVILLE, IN DODGE 255.33
11 OUT OF CONTROL KEVIN ARMSTRONG BURNSVILLE, VA CHEVY 252.28
12 SIMPLY INSANE DANIEL GRAY WINCHESTER, TN FORD 177.11
13 RIDIN DIRTY JOSH O'CONNOR GREENWOOD, MO CHEVY HOOKED/BROKE
14 THE BANDIT JOE UNDERWOOD VAULEER, TN DODGE DNH

Air Dog 2.6 Diesel Trucks

FLOATING FINISH
Finished Vehicle Driver Name City, State Brand Distance
1 LOST CAUSE EVAN SMOOT EATON, IN DODGE 303.01
2 BURLEY BILT TYLER ELLER LAFAYETTE, TN DODGE 295.67
3 JEREMY MCDANIEL PERRYVILLE, KY DODGE 294.12
4 FANCY HOOKER ZACK ANDREWS SUMNER , IL CHEVY 292.42
5 BAILLIE DIESIEL 07 JIM GREENWAY GALENA, MO DODGE 291.98
6 TRAILER TRENDZ RICHARD LOWRY EUGENE, MO DODGE 291.9
7 ALL NITE LONG KILE CAMME UPLAND, IN DODGE 291.48
8 CAGED HOOKER ROB HALL SMITHVILLE, MO CHEVY 291.43
9 THE WRECKER ADAM HALLIEN FT WAYNE, IN DODGE 291.25
10 ALMOST OUTTA A CONTROL LOGAN ARMSTRONG BURNSVILLE, VA CHEVY 288.24
11 SMOKIN II TYSON DILLARD FOUNTAIN RUN , KY DODGE 287.27
12 ALL ATTITUDE ROB WRIGHT BALTIMORE, OH DODGE 286.41
13 BLUE GOOSE TERRY COPPESS ELWOOD, IN DODGE 285.14
14 THE SHOW ME HOOKER JOHN WHALEN TROY, MO DODGE 284.33
15 FORTUNE TELLER DERRICK HAMPSON CEDAR GROVE, IN DODGE 282.64
16 CUMMIN APART ZACK KEMPER EATON, IN DODGE 282.52
17 CUMMIN ON BRANDON OVERMYER ROCHESTER, IN DODGE 281.31
18 YIPPEE-KI-YEA GARRY WOODWARD SENECA, MO DODGE 279.03
19 ICE FARMS JOSHUA SCHUTTER WHEATLAND, IN DODGE 278.54
20 DIEHARD DURAMAX MARVIN GILLFILLAN HAMILTON, OH GMC 278.3
21 MYAKKA HOOKER MICHAEL FALCONER MYAKKA CITY, FL DODGE 278.14
22 THE MENACE ERIC SQUIRES DEFIANCE, OH CHEVY 277.62
23 BAILLIE DIESEL 94 JIM GREENWAY GALENA, MO DODGE 276.85
24 SILVER BULLET ZACH WILLIAMS BRONAUGH, MO DODGE 275.43
25 CRAIG MCELFRESH RUSHVILLE, MO CHEVY 275.32
26 BORDER LINE BJ WIX WESTMORELAND, TN DODGE 273.14
27 BADGER DIESEL RYAN DEDOLPH JANESVILLE, WI GMC 269.61
28 OFF AGAIN TODD JARECKE FIRTH, NE DODGE 267.65
29 BAD INFLUENCE ADAM BEIER JASPER, IN DODGE 267.1
30 INFERNO DAVID PEDIGO GLASGOW, KY GMC 264.9
31 BLACK BALLED TODD GREENE BRADENTON, FL GMC 260.02
32 BRENT MEYER WANTOMA, WI CHEVY 259.64
33 COMMONLY RAILED ETHAN SCHNEIDER RHINELAND, MO DODGE 254.29
34 SASQUATCH DEVIN HUFF OKEANA, OH GMC 253.21
35 THE LAST STROKE STEVE CONSTABLE WOODBURY, TN FORD 251.69
36 LIVE IT UP DREW KEMP ELMWOOD, TN DODGE 250.77
37 CUMMIN ATCHA BEN BRAUNECKER JASPER, IN DODGE 247.29
38 STROKIN-TIL-BROKEN DAMON WARREN SHELBYVILL, TN DODGE 238.07
39 KEVIN JARVIS RURAL RETREAT, VA GMC 189.87
40 FEARLESS FORD ERIC GEORGE NEW BETHLEHEM, PA FORD 176.09
41 INSTANT GRATIFICATION JOE HILL OBLONG, ILL CHEVY 92.34
42 MEGATRON JASON WAYMAN GREENCASTLE, MO DODGE 0.48
 
vhaisley said:
TS Performance Pull
Franklin, KY
May 19, 2012

Air Dog 2.6 Diesel Trucks

FLOATING FINISH
Finished Vehicle Driver Name City, State Brand Distance
1 LOST CAUSE EVAN SMOOT EATON, IN DODGE 303.01
2 BURLEY BILT TYLER ELLER LAFAYETTE, TN DODGE 295.67
3 JEREMY MCDANIEL PERRYVILLE, KY DODGE 294.12
4 FANCY HOOKER ZACK ANDREWS SUMNER , IL CHEVY 292.42
5 BAILLIE DIESIEL 07 JIM GREENWAY GALENA, MO DODGE 291.98
6 TRAILER TRENDZ RICHARD LOWRY EUGENE, MO DODGE 291.9
7 ALL NITE LONG KILE CAMME UPLAND, IN DODGE 291.48
8 CAGED HOOKER ROB HALL SMITHVILLE, MO CHEVY 291.43
9 THE WRECKER ADAM HALLIEN FT WAYNE, IN DODGE 291.25
10 ALMOST OUTTA A CONTROL LOGAN ARMSTRONG BURNSVILLE, VA CHEVY 288.24
11 SMOKIN II TYSON DILLARD FOUNTAIN RUN , KY DODGE 287.27
12 ALL ATTITUDE ROB WRIGHT BALTIMORE, OH DODGE 286.41
13 BLUE GOOSE TERRY COPPESS ELWOOD, IN DODGE 285.14
14 THE SHOW ME HOOKER JOHN WHALEN TROY, MO DODGE 284.33
15 FORTUNE TELLER DERRICK HAMPSON CEDAR GROVE, IN DODGE 282.64
16 CUMMIN APART ZACK KEMPER EATON, IN DODGE 282.52
17 CUMMIN ON BRANDON OVERMYER ROCHESTER, IN DODGE 281.31
18 YIPPEE-KI-YEA GARRY WOODWARD SENECA, MO DODGE 279.03
19 ICE FARMS JOSHUA SCHUTTER WHEATLAND, IN DODGE 278.54
20 DIEHARD DURAMAX MARVIN GILLFILLAN HAMILTON, OH GMC 278.3
21 MYAKKA HOOKER MICHAEL FALCONER MYAKKA CITY, FL DODGE 278.14
22 THE MENACE ERIC SQUIRES DEFIANCE, OH CHEVY 277.62
23 BAILLIE DIESEL 94 JIM GREENWAY GALENA, MO DODGE 276.85
24 SILVER BULLET ZACH WILLIAMS BRONAUGH, MO DODGE 275.43
25 CRAIG MCELFRESH RUSHVILLE, MO CHEVY 275.32
26 BORDER LINE BJ WIX WESTMORELAND, TN DODGE 273.14
27 BADGER DIESEL RYAN DEDOLPH JANESVILLE, WI GMC 269.61
28 OFF AGAIN TODD JARECKE FIRTH, NE DODGE 267.65
29 BAD INFLUENCE ADAM BEIER JASPER, IN DODGE 267.1
30 INFERNO DAVID PEDIGO GLASGOW, KY GMC 264.9
31 BLACK BALLED TODD GREENE BRADENTON, FL GMC 260.02
32 BRENT MEYER WANTOMA, WI CHEVY 259.64
33 COMMONLY RAILED ETHAN SCHNEIDER RHINELAND, MO DODGE 254.29
34 SASQUATCH DEVIN HUFF OKEANA, OH GMC 253.21
35 THE LAST STROKE STEVE CONSTABLE WOODBURY, TN FORD 251.69
36 LIVE IT UP DREW KEMP ELMWOOD, TN DODGE 250.77
37 CUMMIN ATCHA BEN BRAUNECKER JASPER, IN DODGE 247.29
38 STROKIN-TIL-BROKEN DAMON WARREN SHELBYVILL, TN DODGE 238.07
39 KEVIN JARVIS RURAL RETREAT, VA GMC 189.87
40 FEARLESS FORD ERIC GEORGE NEW BETHLEHEM, PA FORD 176.09
41 INSTANT GRATIFICATION JOE HILL OBLONG, ILL CHEVY 92.34
42 MEGATRON JASON WAYMAN GREENCASTLE, MO DODGE 0.48
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Anyone else notice the Welds on the traction bars etc on this truck?

YIKES!!!


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JIT said:
Anyone else notice the Welds on the traction bars etc on this truck?

YIKES!!!


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LOL!! You dont like my buddies welding?? Those things were put on 3 years ago late one night and who knows what else might have been involved! They've held up to over 100 hooks, if they aint broke, no need to fix them! I only moved the sled a few inches anyways, the poor thang dont even have enough power to pull itself let alone break those traction bar welds, lol!
 
megatron said:
LOL!! You dont like my buddies welding?? Those things were put on 3 years ago late one night and who knows what else might have been involved! They've held up to over 100 hooks, if they aint broke, no need to fix them! I only moved the sled a few inches anyways, the poor thang dont even have enough power to pull itself let alone break those traction bar welds, lol!
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Looked good on the exhibition hook. What happened the first time?
 
Some how my clamp came off the holds my intercooler pipe to my side draft intake... Not sure how, cause it was on when i parked it after tech and weigh in. It fell off in the pits as i was driving it to get my hitch re measured. Found it after i tried to pull of course.
 
Yeah it looked like very little penetration. But if all you need is a little penetration then you better keep her.

Just a clamp? That sucks!
 
JIT said:
Yeah it looked like very little penetration. But if all you need is a little penetration then you better keep her. Just a clamp? That sucks!
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yep just one v band clamp kept me sitting on the line
 
megatron said:
yep just one v band clamp kept me sitting on the line
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Man I hate to hear that! I was looking forward to seeing your truck make a good run in person. What are the chances of a vband clamp falling off right before you pulled? Sounds like you have luck about like me LOL
 
BigPapa said:
No crying going on here, chief. The truck didn't get to pull because it didn't meet the rules. You're right, that's on me and I guarantee it won't happen again. I asked if there were others that didn't get to pull because of the sudden enforcement of the rule in one class. I asked 5 pertinent questions in my 2nd post. Where do you get "crying" from anything I said?

You said it, "selective enforcing sucks".
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Sorry. It seems you understand the situation though. I get a little touchy because I've been places where guys know the rules and chose not to follow them and then cry about something being enforced. I was making a general statement and was the reason I put "In General:", but I can see how you thought I was responding directly to you as I quoted your comment. I tried responding to your comments in red within your quote and then make a general statement afterwards. If it came across differently, I didn't intentionally do it.

Edit: If I thought you were "crying" I would have put "Stop Crying" in my direct response to you...just for future clarification. :Cheer:
 
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No hay problema.

We'd pulled at 2 PPL pulls last year with no problems, so we figured we were good at this one as long as we met the "Changes for 2012" section. Just didn't make sense, especially the "safety hitch or drop 200 pound" part. Like I said, it won't happen again.
 
4x4dually said:
I'm no puller and don't know com'mer from sick'em about it....but I can't imagine anyone making a track stickier than that one. It looked like the red clay on my dirt road after a rain. Playdooh'y. I haven't been to a lot of pulls in my life, but I can't imagine the frames bendin' up in the middle any more than some of the trucks that pulled.

I didn't get a lot of great pulls recorded, but here's one that turned out ok.

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Were you guys at TS??? Track was done very nice, but tacky??? Most trucks when the sun went down had one heck of a time getting the sled moving very fast due to the slime on top... Clay when moist is ok wet clay = slimey...
 
The 3.0 side was awful until about the 200' mark, then the trucks started to hook up. I thought the 2.6 side was pretty dang sticky. Maybe not as much on the beginning, but at the big end, it was definitely tacky. There were several trucks that didn't have the power to keep the tires spinning at end, and just about every stout truck was bowed over in the middle. I also thought there was a decent bit of carnage. I had a pretty awesome spot, right around the 250' mark on the 2.6 side, literally right beside the track.
 
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