ok ill check ficm using the easier method! and the tach is not moving when its cranking over, so it maybe the camshaft sensor! anybody got the international part number for that?? I am around tampa,fl area. truck is in valrico. I would prefer to just fix it if its something simple like that sensor, but I will try the ether method tmrw too just to make sure. If tthe ficm is bad would tach work?? thanks for all the help guys!! I'm at work having my brother troubleshoot across the county for me, so this really helps me out!