first off, i dont need your opinion, i believe what i believe, pick it apart and try and prove me wrong, it wont happen, it is what it is.
The difference between us, is that what I understand to be true is based on objective observation by myself and that made by others. What you choose to believe is based solely on hearsay written in a book by other men, which is in contradiction to the very observable evidence I base my understanding of the universe on. And the subject matter written in the book you choose to base your world view on cannot be tested nor validated through any amount of observation nor experimentation as everything I have suggested in this thread most certainly has been.
i do belive in evolution TO AN EXTENT. the earth and everything on it didnt just happen with a big bang and humans did not evolve from monkeys. BUT over the course of millions of years, things have changed adapted to the environment in which they live.
You either understand it, or you don't. If you understand it then it's very simple to see how it works from start to finish. The only thing that might sway you back toward metaphysics again would be the question of..... how did it start then. To which I can confidently say, I don't know. But to which you must fill in an answer to no matter what, even if that answer happens to be a load of crap. I happen to be capable of accepting the fact that I don't know.
Adam was created in god's image, a HUMAN BEING, we are all decendants of Adam and Eve, HUMAN BEINGS.
Again, this is the exact same point I made before. I'll try again here. But if the Human lineage started with Adam, at the species Homo Sapien then how on earth do you explain the 10 or so
observed species of humans in our evolutionary history? Are you suggesting that Adam was like you and I, or are you suggesting that Adam was the first species in the line "Homo" from which the evolutionary path eventually led to the current Homo Sapien? If so, how do you know that our definition of "human" was the same as God's? Why should Homo Habilis be any more special than anything previous? You realize that each of these "steps" is really just a point in a smooth evolutionary process where we have found a fossil of sufficient change and name it right? The fossils don't actually represent huge jumps in evolution. The evolution was smooth and involved millions of years worth of tiny little changes. It's no different than taking your computer and in the paint program starting with red, and then altering the color with the little sliders until you get orange. At some point you will decide that it is "orange"..... but did the color just magically jump from red to orange? Of course not. It slowly and smoothly changed, one little movement at a time.
What you're saying here is that humans, as you and I (the color orange) were created by an omnipotent creature.
And what I'm trying to convey to you is that since we have clear evidence that the humans we see today have followed a long and rather well defined evolutionary path over 2 million years old beginning with homo habilis, which not coincidentally was shorter with longer arms. And not coincidentally each subsequent fossil (subsequent in terms of cronology in age, not time found by modern humans) shows humans with taller, more stature, marked by Homo Erectus which marks the begining of the walking on the rear legs in an upright stature as opposed to walking primarily on both arms and legs as the previous species did. We also see larger and larger brains in subsequent species right up to present with us, the Homo Sapien.
So you see, you saying that we just popped into existence, (the color orange) is absurd considering that what you see above is the equivalent of a video of the change from a species with small brains, short stature and that walks on arms and legs (the color red) to the present day humans (the color orange) right in front of us.
So to say we were created (we, being the latter) right out of think air is insane.
The pivotal concept to capture here is that observable, objective evidence shows all this. Not my opinion, and not the words of men. Physical reality.
So again, I ask you, if God made Adam as the first "man" and he did so in his own image, then was Adam Homo Habilis, or was he an Ape...... or was he a single-celled organism???
If we want to nit-pick that same story also tells us that God removed a rib from Adam to make Eve. Yet we can plainly see that man and woman both have the same even number of ribs.
It should be clear that man got the story wrong. It contradicts reality, and it's very childish to be honest. Which is the most likely reason the story has survived so well. Ease of audience acceptance.
If you're speaking to an audience that can't count, can't write and can't reason well because of their primitive existence, you can't very well start talking in depth about evolution now can you?
So what makes you think that God could have captured that audience with concepts they couldn't grasp?
Obviously the message was either misunderstood by man, or was tailored for it's intended audience and dumbed down appropriately.
and if you dont believe what i have said, great. i dont need you to validate my beliefs
Good, because that's impossible.
