-------------------------------------------------------CumminAtYa said:I just read this whole thread and can't believe I didn't see one post from Comp.
I have read from many people that for years banks would put down new ideas but as soon as banks had the ability to "copy" the idea it was the best thing in the world, and a banks "exclusive" or something along those lines.
As for your buddy.......bet him on a dyno competition. Tell him the closest guess to your actual horsepower numbers gets the dyno time paid for.....closest guess over or under to be fair.
CumminAtYa:
I know this post you made was awhile ago, but I also wanted to add some facts to what you said about "for years Banks would put down new ideas but as soon as Banks had the ability to "copy" that idea, it was the best thing in the world.............................................."
Here are some REAL, UNDISPUTABLE FACTS on that issue:
1.) From about 1995 to 1997 GBE was buying the 12V Cummins Fuel Curve Torque Plates for the P-7100 Pump from Mark and Gina Chapple at "TST Products" in Columbus, Indiana. GBE did that until such time that GBE could "COPY" that fuel curve torque plate and put their name on it!!
2.) From mid-year 1998.5 until early 2000, GBE was also buying the "TST PM 3
Fueling Boxes from Mark and Gina Chapple at "TST Products" in Columbus, Indiana. They would receive those boxes from TST, tear off TST's labels and then place their own "Banks Power" stickers on them. They did that until they had their own engineers "COPY" basically what Mark Chapple had conceived, researched, developed and implemented, and then GBE built their own from what they learned from Mark Chapple!!! Now after doing that to Mark Chapple, Old Gale had the audacity about a year ago to run a Banks ad "slamming his competitiors" with "TST Products" included, and in that ad showing Mark Chapple with a total of nine (9) years experience in the diesel performance field KNOWING that Mark Chapple worked for Cummins for THIRTY THREE (33) YEARS before he even started his own company; TST Products. But that's the GBE way,........"buddy up and milk your competitors and once you get what you want from them kick them under the bus to make yourself look good!!" I have known Mark and Gina Chapple at "TST Products" since 1997 and I can tell you without a doubt they are some of the nicest, MOST PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE in the diesel performance industry which GBE will NEVER get close to!! And that is a FACT!!
Now,....Old Gale and his Crew at GBE say "they are innovators and not imitators?????" Well, I say that is pretty much HOGWASH myself!:hehe:
For any CompD Member that doubts this you can call Mark and Gina Chapple at TST Products and they will confirm to you that what I am saying is the absolute truth.
One last thing,.........also at the 2003 ATS Truckfest, GBE had worked out a deal with the owners of ATS (Clint and Ranee Cannon) to put a full ATS Transmission in that Banks LSR Truck. They had a manual tranny in it for their Land Speed Record runs. So,....ATS sent them a full ATS built tranny which by the way was painted the very distinctive purple color paint ATS has always used! Old Gale had apparently said "he would be placing ATS stickers on the Banks LSR Truck." Once at the track, there were no ATS Stickers???
I was asked by an ATS employee to go up to the Banks Pits and ask their Crew what kind of auto transmission they were running KNOWING it was an ATS. Their reply??? "We are running a Banks Transmission!" I then asked "Well if it is a Banks Transmission why does it have ATS purple paint all over it?" That Banks Pit Crew Member stated and I quote: "Well you will have to ask Gale Banks about that" as he turned and walked back into their race trailer!!!!wned:
Guys,......IMHO this type of stuff ALL goes to chararcter, integrity and honesty just to name a few of the reasons why Old Gale and his Crew at GBE have the "reputation" they do in the diesel performance world! As the saying goes; "You reap what you sow!"
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John_P
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