Big Money Pullers

Delinquent said:
If I look over at your title It looks like money is a problem for you!

For $$$ your name here. lol
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I could always use more money, as that way I wouldn't have to use my own.

I wasn't on here complaining that someone has more money in their truck and should step up clases. Maybe the rest of the class competitors should step up their spending?

Put yourself in their shoes, be top dog in 2.6 or be so so in 2.8? Obviously it matters to you or you wouldn't have started a thread about it.
 
Money ain't nothing to me. I have none of it. Don't believe me, come to my shack, and look at my pile that I drive.

What does matter to me, is the sport of pulling. There is really only one organization in this area. Up until this year, on any given night, 6 or 7 trucks might have finished first. Everybody enjoyed the pulls, and the competition. Now there are two trucks, that went the extra mile, dropped the coin, and are going to dominate the class. I'm glad they have the money, and everytime they go to a really large event, such as TS or Scheid we all route for them.

But what does the puller with a factory job do...Just continue to donate joing and hook fees?

As I stated, i am not *****ing because I don't have the funds for a puller. I'm just worried that before long, this sanctioning body is going to drop the class, and I'll have to drive 200 miles just to watch a diesel pull on a regular basis.
 
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Delinquent said:
Money ain't nothing to me. I have none of it. Don't believe me, come to my shack, and look at my pile that I drive.

What does matter to me, is the sport of pulling. There is really only one organization in this area. Up until this year, on any given night, 6 or 7 trucks might have finished first. Everybody enjoyed the pulls, and the competition. Now there are two trucks, that went the extra mile, dropped the coin, and are going to dominate the class. I'm glad they have the money, and everytime they go to a really large event, such as TS or Scheid we all route for them.

But what does the puller with a factory job do...Just continue to donate joing and hook fees?

As I stated, i am not *****ing because I don't have the funds for a puller. I'm just worried that before long, this sanctioning body is going to drop the class, and I'll have to drive 200 miles just to watch a diesel pull on a regular basis.
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It doesn't matter what sport it is in, folks are gonna spend money. There was a Garden tractor puller out here that had like 6K in his engine.

Personally I feel over the next few years the diesel truck pulling will shrink, and part of it is the reason you say, the shear cost of competing. It will become like the other pulling classes. It is just the life cycle of things.
One of the huge advents to diesel truck pulling was you could get 600HP or more out of a truck that you could drive to the pull, hook, and then go home. The sport has became too competitive for that. Remember the years ago when Kent Crowder ran a D80 in the mod class?

So yes money will change the sport, will it kill it? Probably not, but it will change it.
 
lubeowner said:
For a 3.0 class truck why don't people just buy something like this,

84 Chevy 6200 Super Stock 4x4 Puller For Sale

There was a complete Shieds motor for sale a while back asking $35,000. Throw a different set of rims and tires for like $2000 and then a clutch, can reverser for like $5,000.

You would have a top 3.0 pulling truck for under $50,000.
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this is exactly what I was talking about in my post above...There are tons of deals out there like this but most of us diesel guys I think have tunnel vision and only go directly to the diesel shops (not a bad thing but it never hurts to look around for other ideas) infact...on our tube frame we built I got most of my ideas in and info from tractor guys and Mini-Rod guys seeing they have been building tube chassis's for years!

Ryan
 
Here is the thing.... Years ago, 2.6 was a class that a budget truck could win in. Not going to happen at a national event anymore. If you want to win in 2.6, and are cheap... stick to brush pulls, or learn how to build wicked $hit yourself.
 
Dan use to have a house on a pimp lake too, now lives in a shack and point being? he made sacrifices to pull!
 
My opinion, lax rules have made the classes "pro". Money isn't really the problem, just a by product of the rules. Besides these big money trucks vs low dollars make it more interesting for the fans. What the question should be is WHY are you paying to hook, you are the reason people are watching and eventually wanting to buy parts for their truck from your suppliers.
 
house said:
Dan use to have a house on a pimp lake too, now lives in a shack and point being? he made sacrifices to pull!
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LOL, pretty good analogy. Actually getting rid of the 2nd household freed up some cash. Enough to step up the game a little.
 
outlaw99 said:
I think if you obviously have the money to run a bigger class you shouldnt be in the 2.6 class. you shouldnt be building 80k dollar 2.6 street trucks, for 80k you could have a bad ass 2.8 or even 3.0 truck... these people know who they are. also if you run a certain class all the time do not drop down a class just because you can bush your turbo or something dumb...
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But what about those that are stuck in a class due to location? Say you didn't want to have to travel 3 hours or more a weekend, and some classes aren't offered in your area, therefore building an "80K" puller for whatever class is what they choose to do. Not everyone is willing to travel across the country for a 15-20 second thrill ride in a class they "should" be in because they put "x" ammount of money into a truck for their own wanting to win and personal amusement.

Just throwing these thoughts out there to try and show why some people do what they do. it is not always just to try and "crush" the competition, other factors may also apply $.02
 
Delinquent said:
This thread wasn't started about Tyler Dillard and his puller. I will be glad to see Mr. Dillard out this season, I mean I look at it this way. Somebody has to compete with Eller and Furlong. If Dillard doen't make it out, it will be Eller and Furlong back and forth all year.

This thread was started about pullers in general, who have the funds to go to a bigger class, but won't for unknown reasons.
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in your original post, nothing to me sounded to be pointed at pulllers in general. just my .02
 
Gump said:
What the question should be is WHY are you paying to hook, you are the reason people are watching
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That has always been my grip with this whole deal. I show up, put on a show. In return there are thousands of people that come, watch, and pay like $5 or more to watch it. The town or what ever puts it on makes 10 of thousands of $ when you also factor in food and beverage sales. Then they want me to pay $25 or more to put on the show. What a bunch of bull.

A couple years ago I was asked by a town to bring my truck and for my buddy to bring his, to pull exhibition hook because these diesel trucks were all the talk. So we did. They hyped us all up and then they wanted up to pay a $25 each sled hook fee. We refused to pay and they ended up having us hook for free.

I have also been to pulls and we would not take our trucks off the trailer because of the hook fee price or there was no payback. I will not pay to pull my truck anymore if I don't deem the payback worth it.

We started a new club this year just of diesel truck pullers. Basically "Work stock" trucks and 3.0 open driveline. We went around and sold this so far to 9 towns. They pay us then we show up with an agreed amount of trucks in each class. They are already having a show so they do everything. They supply the sled, track prep, flaggers and so on. We just bring about 1 hour of entertainment to add to there "brush" pull. We do all the rules and teching for the classes. They write our club one big check and then our club disperses out the winnings. I pretty sure at the first hook we are getting $650 for the little class and $1000 for the 3.0 class. If we get more than 6 trucks in the 3.0 then they are giving up another $500.

On one hook they wanted to 3.0 trucks, so we got the $650 for the little class and $1500 for the 3.0 class and if we get over 10 trucks in that class, the 3.0 payback goes to $2,500.

One thing also to know about our new club is that you have to become a member. By becoming a member our club has to carry insurance on the truck. That is a $75 fee for the year, after that there are no hook fees.
 
lubeowner said:
That has always been my grip with this whole deal. I show up, put on a show. In return there are thousands of people that come, watch, and pay like $5 or more to watch it. The town or what ever puts it on makes 10 of thousands of $ when you also factor in food and beverage sales. Then they want me to pay $25 or more to put on the show. What a bunch of bull.

A couple years ago I was asked by a town to bring my truck and for my buddy to bring his, to pull exhibition hook because these diesel trucks were all the talk. So we did. They hyped us all up and then they wanted up to pay a $25 each sled hook fee. We refused to pay and they ended up having us hook for free.

I have also been to pulls and we would not take our trucks off the trailer because of the hook fee price or there was no payback. I will not pay to pull my truck anymore if I don't deem the payback worth it.

We started a new club this year just of diesel truck pullers. Basically "Work stock" trucks and 3.0 open driveline. We went around and sold this so far to 9 towns. They pay us then we show up with an agreed amount of trucks in each class. They are already having a show so they do everything. They supply the sled, track prep, flaggers and so on. We just bring about 1 hour of entertainment to add to there "brush" pull. We do all the rules and teching for the classes. They write our club one big check and then our club disperses out the winnings. I pretty sure at the first hook we are getting $650 for the little class and $1000 for the 3.0 class. If we get more than 6 trucks in the 3.0 then they are giving up another $500.

On one hook they wanted to 3.0 trucks, so we got the $650 for the little class and $1500 for the 3.0 class and if we get over 10 trucks in that class, the 3.0 payback goes to $2,500.

One thing also to know about our new club is that you have to become a member. By becoming a member our club has to carry insurance on the truck. That is a $75 fee for the year, after that there are no hook fees.
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Sounds like you have a good thing going, congrats!
 
lubeowner said:
That has always been my grip with this whole deal. I show up, put on a show. In return there are thousands of people that come, watch, and pay like $5 or more to watch it. The town or what ever puts it on makes 10 of thousands of $ when you also factor in food and beverage sales. Then they want me to pay $25 or more to put on the show. What a bunch of bull.

A couple years ago I was asked by a town to bring my truck and for my buddy to bring his, to pull exhibition hook because these diesel trucks were all the talk. So we did. They hyped us all up and then they wanted up to pay a $25 each sled hook fee. We refused to pay and they ended up having us hook for free.

I have also been to pulls and we would not take our trucks off the trailer because of the hook fee price or there was no payback. I will not pay to pull my truck anymore if I don't deem the payback worth it.

We started a new club this year just of diesel truck pullers. Basically "Work stock" trucks and 3.0 open driveline. We went around and sold this so far to 9 towns. They pay us then we show up with an agreed amount of trucks in each class. They are already having a show so they do everything. They supply the sled, track prep, flaggers and so on. We just bring about 1 hour of entertainment to add to there "brush" pull. We do all the rules and teching for the classes. They write our club one big check and then our club disperses out the winnings. I pretty sure at the first hook we are getting $650 for the little class and $1000 for the 3.0 class. If we get more than 6 trucks in the 3.0 then they are giving up another $500.

On one hook they wanted to 3.0 trucks, so we got the $650 for the little class and $1500 for the 3.0 class and if we get over 10 trucks in that class, the 3.0 payback goes to $2,500.

One thing also to know about our new club is that you have to become a member. By becoming a member our club has to carry insurance on the truck. That is a $75 fee for the year, after that there are no hook fees.
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Well said. I would like to do the same in my area...
 
lubeowner said:
You going to come pull at Churning Dirt again this year Garrett in Richland Center? That is the hook we got with the big payout!!
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Depends on the classes.. Does work stock allow 2.6 chargers?

My 3.0 truck won't be together this year.
 
Everyone complains about big money pullers but again this year Jason Beasley wins the 2.6 class at TS with an off the shelf charger. That truck is still very streetable as well. Just because you can throw money at a truck doesnt mean you automatically win!
 
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