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Fuzzys69

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I was wondering whats the difference between the two of these?
they both look about the same
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fuzzy
 
I would have to say go with the one you hear about the most.

That says more people use them for a reason..JMO
 
I may be wrong here, but from what I know one is owned by the Dad and the other by the son, similar products. The FASS has and always will be geared towards high performance diesels, the airdog, from what I understand was initially sold as the fuel preparator and was geared to heavy machinery, machine applications, etc...Again, I may be off here but that was what I was told...Oh and now Airdog aka fuel preparator is trying to come in and undercut the market by slashing their prices to gain some market share...alright that's all of my wisdom for today...:Cheer:
 
Knowing Dan's passion for the high performance diesel industry, and hearing the tons of great customer service stories...going with FASS is a no brainer.
 
Oh yea, and like Unbroken said...Dan's the man...even though he did move from the great state of Texas to Misery...I mean Missouri...
 
The AirDog was specifically designed for diesel pickups. The FASS was copied from the Fuel preporator which was designed for non pickup applications. I can not answer your question for a Ford application, but from my experiance with the two the AirDog is far superior. The lower price is a result of changes made within the company allowing for in house assemble on stuff that was previously outsourced.
 
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I have to say that the FASS is a great product. Their Customer service is phenomenal. That to me would make my decision.
 
Fass

FASS is the only way to go.

Dont waste your time on the Airdog ( if that is the name they are using this week or has it changed again) and its poor customer service.
We sold the fuelpreporator way back and I cant say that the product is bad but the customer service is very bad in my opinion.
The FASS in my opinion is better and there customer service is second to none.
Shane
 
The AirDog has never had a name change.:hehe: I have been selling them since they first came out and have always been treated well.
 
BAP said:
FASS is the only way to go.

Dont waste your time on the Airdog ( if that is the name they are using this week or has it changed again) and its poor customer service.
We sold the fuelpreporator way back and I cant say that the product is bad but the customer service is very bad in my opinion.
The FASS in my opinion is better and there customer service is second to none.
Shane
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I have been running a Fuel Preporator since 2001 with zero problems, and I think it's ability to supply enough fuel to make over 1200 horsepower is proof enough that it's a great system. Yes FASS is good, but it's not the only way to go, and checking out Airdog is not a waste of time.
 
SmokinCummins said:
The AirDog has never had a name change.:hehe: I have been selling them since they first came out and have always been treated well.
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You are really trying hard here......

If this was DTR you might stand a chance.

Your concept of designed for the pick up truck is great, but it was really built different for the pick up market with smaller components. Reduce the cost, cuz they won't know. FASS offers Options that most people will decide for themselves on. Anyone that knocks FASS and claims to sell similar is normally sore about something from the past.

How bout those two cents?
 
JacktheBear3 said:
You are really trying hard here......

If this was DTR you might stand a chance.

Your concept of designed for the pick up truck is great, but it was really built different for the pick up market with smaller components. Reduce the cost, cuz they won't know. FASS offers Options that most people will decide for themselves on. Anyone that knocks FASS and claims to sell similar is normally sore about something from the past.

How bout those two cents?
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They did not change any of the internals to make it cheaper, simply doing it in house instead of paying a manufacturing facility to do it for them. It makes building it cost less without making the product any "cheaper". Built specifically for a pickup is what the company did instead of adapting a big bulky product to work. The overall package is a ton more compact to fit on a pickup, yet will out perform a FASS.

Know what happened when the AirDog was released? FASS came out with a compact unit to compete with the AirDog. The little FASS works OK on a stock or lightly modded truck, but if you start taking the power up alot you have to get the 150 GPH unit. Not So with the AirDog. The 100GPH AirDog will supply fuel for big horsepower. The FASS 95 will not.
 
Information For Those Who Care!

The Fuel Preporator has been the leader in fuel air separation technology since the first sale of the first hand made product on March 15, 1993. The first commercially manufactured embodiment that was made and sold in 1994 had the fuel air separation features of todays model except for the 'flow dividers'. This was the feature that enhanced the air separation that allowed the major reduction in size.

The fass, as seen at the 2003 Mid America Truck Show, has only the secondary air separation features of the Fuel Preporator as shown in the October 1996 LandLine article.

This Fuel Preporator feature that is used by the fass is for venting air from inside of the filter element during filter changes and bubbles that may randomly pass through the filter. It is described in the Fuel Preporator patent 5,746,184 Abstract as "Bubbles passing through element 94 are swept upwardly for discharge through the outlet side discharge port (428) to ensure a substantially gas and vapor-free supply of fuel to the engine". This function is totally explained in detail in the "Description of the Preferred Embodiments" of the same patent in column 9, lines 54 through 65. This technology preceeds the fass by 9 years, and is only a part of the fuel air separation technology of the Fuel Preporator.

The Fuel Preporator also has a primary gas exit port. When Brad Ekstam was asked about the primary gas exit port of the Fuel Preporator on February 16, 2007, "So just so we're clear, you do agree then that the Fuel Preporator without the air bleed port would operate in the same way as the Fass.." Brad said "I am saying that you would be taking the air out the same way we do". Has he forgotten the fass is 9 years to late to be original.

As for poor customer service "from way back", give me one name of a customer upset with customer service before the company was sold Feb. 2005 due to my kidney failure and health issues or after it was bought back last March after I received a kidney transplant! Although, it could have been "way back" as BAP stated, during the period that Brad sold Fuel Preporators from 1995 through 2002, for my Licensees. If None is nothing, then customer service "second to none" must be really poor, Is that when you meant, BAP?

As for the name changes, the Fuel Preporator has always been the Fuel Preporator, the AirDog has always been the AirDog, The Raptor fuel pump has always been the Raptor, the SuperDog 250 has always been the SuperDog 250. None of these are knock offs using other's technology! Althought the company name did change from Fuel Preporator International to Ekstam WorldWide to go from a Missouri corp to a Delaware corp for tax purposes and PureFlow Technologies due to the change of ownership.

I hope this may clear a few issues. Additionally, we have a full comparison of the patents and products that will show who is original and who is not....coming soon to our website!

Product loyalty is great, only be sure that when you make statements your are correct and not just making slanderous statements without merit, they show your true qualities as a person. One other thing, if the poor customer service was during the period of February 1st, 2005 through February 31st, 2007, I totally agree with you about the poor customer service. That was during the period that I had no control over the company.

We are dedicated to providing original and leading edge technology (just read the University and laboratory studies and test results) and outstanding customer service (just read the AirDog threads).

Charlie Ekstam
 
Well, there ya have it, from The Horses mouth. Thanks Charlie. SOunds like you can't go wrong with either decision you make.
 
SmokinCummins said:
They did not change any of the internals to make it cheaper, simply doing it in house instead of paying a manufacturing facility to do it for them. It makes building it cost less without making the product any "cheaper". Built specifically for a pickup is what the company did instead of adapting a big bulky product to work. The overall package is a ton more compact to fit on a pickup, yet will out perform a FASS.

Know what happened when the AirDog was released? FASS came out with a compact unit to compete with the AirDog. The little FASS works OK on a stock or lightly modded truck, but if you start taking the power up alot you have to get the 150 GPH unit. Not So with the AirDog. The 100GPH AirDog will supply fuel for big horsepower. The FASS 95 will not.
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