How consistant is a weight transfer sled?

ILLINOISRAM said:
I have seen it with a local sled too. He openly does not like truck pullers cause we lie and cheat about what we have done to them. A stock commonrail with a smarty on a stock clutch beat 4 or 5 500+ horse trucks. cause as soon as he seen the smoke he would ride the breaks and we knew this cause the breaks would be smoking when he got done.
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I believe I know who you are talking about. His sled is red and the name of it starts with H_____ B____. If that is the case I am honestly surprised that he is still running the area, years ago several guys I know said they would never hire him again, but the next year they did again because he is so cheap. He definitely does hold a grudge...

That being said I have seen odder things than what you talk about happen and it is not the sled operators fault. Some times the trucks just over power the track, or one hooks really good and out pulls someone that is much more built than them. Its pulling, the big power guys do not always win...

nwpadmax said:
Just a point to consider...

There is a lot of video footage shot of the pulls these days...but often the camera guy zooms in a bit too far - obviously because the truck is of prime interest. I think there's something to be learned by zooming out enough to watch BOTH.
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Look at any of my video's on my Youtube channel. I learned a while ago that you see much more when keeping everything you can in the shot while still being able to see what is going on.

As for the original post, Gene is correct, most of the time the sled operates the same every time, there is the chance that something did not trip properly, causing a malfunction. As for the operator riding the brakes, I have seen it once, and after talking to him about it he stopped, he was "resting" his foot on the brake and stopped after a complaint was made.
 
LOL Was it a mistake? That sled is still around. I've had the brakes put on me at a pull in MD.
 
I think that if you are at any half way serious sled pull your not going to run into these problems. Most associations have rules for the sleds that they use. These rules are to prevent issues like this from happening.


This whole crying about sled operators cheating is about as stupid as open class pullers at the end of the night pulling a sled that is way lighter and thinking that there truck could have beat the compeating 2.8 trucks because they pulled farther.
 
Ok, I heard there was some questioning the sled there and thought maybe this it where it started.
 
madmatt said:
Ok, I heard there was some questioning the sled there and thought maybe this it where it started.
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No actually I started the thread an hour or so before I left for the pull. Ironically the way things turned out last night I think there were some people at the pull claiming that the pull was rigged since me and David were the only ones to get out towards the end of the track.
 
And for the record, this thread wasn't started for me to complain about sled operators and sleds. I just know that it cant be out of the realm of possiblity that sled/operator error may have an effect on the outcome of the pull.
 
Sled/operator error, yes. Operators holding the brakes or changing gears, not in any organized event.


I had to pull 3 times one night. Went to the pull off and the operator didnt chang the sled, I pulled further the 2nd time. then had to turn around and pull again with the sled reset.
 
Like stated earlier, the pan drops off a switch that the box hits as it moves forward and can't be adjusted without the operator getting out. Sleds that do bigger events such as NTPA pulls have to be certified and inspected.
 
dont the nicer sleds such as old ironsides have a recorder feature built in that shows everything that happens on the sled records every run?? Heard that i the past but not sure how true it is.
 
It's not the sled op faullt. It's the dumb kids they use to drag the track down.
 
I think that the sled operators have the most important job. they have to
set that sled up to make a show. there may be 10 classes and nobody wants
to see 200ft pulls. so they have to make adjustments. that being said i am starting to learn that alot of sled operators dont like diesel trucks it seems. there is no way a twd ss or even a mod is gonna yank it as far as me in most cases but in a open class it is funny just how close they seem to be.
 
redmax1982 said:
I think that the sled operators have the most important job. they have to
set that sled up to make a show. there may be 10 classes and nobody wants
to see 200ft pulls. so they have to make adjustments. that being said i am starting to learn that alot of sled operators dont like diesel trucks it seems. there is no way a twd ss or even a mod is gonna yank it as far as me in most cases but in a open class it is funny just how close they seem to be.
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Thats the key word open class. I know for a fact that the sled operator will set the sled to stop trucks sooner in an open class. Mostly to speed things up when there are 60 trucks in line to hook to the sled.
 
full pull said:
Thats the key word open class. I know for a fact that the sled operator will set the sled to stop trucks sooner in an open class. Mostly to speed things up when there are 60 trucks in line to hook to the sled.
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im talking about a 6-8 truck class
 
A reason why I think sled operators don't like the diesel trucks, is that the smoke blows right in there face all the time. Unlike the tractors who can get it up and over the cab of sled. I know if I have 20 2.6 trucks who are just so-so and don't run the rpms to get the smoke up over the cab, and I have to eat soot on every run, it'd get old really fast. $.02
 
Sled Operators DO hold the brakes, it has happend to me at least 4 times, twice on purpose from a known crooked sled operator(small time old guy). Once after a weight change and he didn;t release the brakes, Once when the sled was broken and the he didn;t turn the red light on and flag guy was sleeping.

IKE
 
RSieck said:
A reason why I think sled operators don't like the diesel trucks, is that the smoke blows right in there face all the time. Unlike the tractors who can get it up and over the cab of sled. I know if I have 20 2.6 trucks who are just so-so and don't run the rpms to get the smoke up over the cab, and I have to eat soot on every run, it'd get old really fast. $.02
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last i checked most of them have cabs ryan. If u find a pull with 20 2.6 trucks around here let me know:umno:
 
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