laminated or billet flexplate?

coating and lamination are kind of the same thing in this case. The coating being applied to the surface is laminating. The two plates put together is also laminating. I guess no one has ever referred to it like that but, it's correct terminology.

Yes, I was told the coating was applied too thick to the center of the plate. Once it heated up... it melted away leaving a mm gap which apparently was enough to cause the bolts to loosen.

Your 3 seconds at a time sounds like you're in elementary school... LOL
 
I'm sure,, but that is probably what caused part of the confusion in this thread. That was already mentioned by B Kirk above. Back to the coating, ;) :D How thick was it?!?!? Was it noticeably thick and look irregular? No too mention, how hot did it have to get to melt. LOL
 
Gosh boys, you argue like girls... :)

This is why I went with the reactor plate...
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nahhh, me and triton have known each other long enough we just can. LOL
 
all in good education. You'll have that when great minds come together :hehe:
 
lmills said:
I'm sure,, but that is probably what caused part of the confusion in this thread. That was already mentioned by B Kirk above. Back to the coating, ;) :D How thick was it?!?!? Was it noticeably thick and look irregular? No too mention, how hot did it have to get to melt. LOL
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You said you've seen plenty of plates. You should know the coating I'm talking about. I don;t know how hot it gets in the trans bell but, I'm sure it enough to melt the coating that's applied. As I said... I imagine it's there to prevent rust.

As far as i know... Suncoast has a machine that does the coating. Maybe it got out of control with a couple plates... I don't know. I don't know how thick is was either but, apparently it was enough to leave room behind the bolts once it melted away. ??
 
I took a Scotch Bright pad to all my mounting surfaces on the flexplate.
I also removed the paint, (lamination???), from the tabs on the converter that bolt to the flex plate.
Just seemed like common sense to me.

Brad
 
B KIRK said:
I took a Scotch Bright pad to all my mounting surfaces on the flexplate.
I also removed the paint, (lamination???), from the tabs on the converter that bolt to the flex plate.
Just seemed like common sense to me.

Brad
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probably not a bad idea. You wouldn't think that wasn't necessary though. There was no paint on mine... just a tacky coating ( lamination ) as I said to likely to prevent rust.

I didn't do the work and I'm sure Garmons shop has done quite a few installs. I don't think they do what you did to their installs. You would think if it was necessary... Suncoast would say to do that to all their plates before installing them.
 
The paint was on the DTT converter mounting tabs, not the flexplate.
The flexplate had the coating.
To me, this is no different than buying a new set of brake drums or rotors.
They have a rust preventive coating on them that has to be removed before use.

Brad
 
see now, I was being serious. LOL Did the plate look like the coating was applied wrong? It was just a question. Don't get your feathers in a ruffle. LOL All I have had looked OK and I have never had a problem.
 
lmills said:
see now, I was being serious. LOL Did the plate look like the coating was applied wrong? It was just a question. Don't get your feathers in a ruffle. LOL All I have had looked OK and I have never had a problem.
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I really wish Garmon would jump into this thread about what I've said. He'd probably be able to explain it better. I don't think it was applied wrong.... just too much of it. From what I was told... they had a batch or two that may have had too much laminate ( coating ) applied. I know, it doesn't make sense but... it's just what I was told.

Bottom line about all this to much coating..... I'm not knocking Suncoast at all. If Suncoast would have been at Indy and not ATS, I'd still have a Suncoast plate :-)
 
triton said:
After talking to the guys at ATS for a while about the subject....their plate is as good as anyone else's. It my be billet but, it does flex enough to do what it's suppose to do. Too much flex can be a bad thing. Plus, the fact it's billet... you can bet the center will never break out like a Suncoast " style " can.
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Triton, this statement is the reason I replied to this thread.
I had trouble with another manufactures flexplate.
But none with the Suncoast flexplate.
Nor has anybody I know had any trouble with the Suncoast.
I'm sure any aftermarket flexplate could break given the right circumstances.
I felt it was a pretty blank statement about how the centers "can" break out.
None of our trucks are bulletproof.
And please quit mixing the word laminate and coating.
Those are two completely different things.

This is not a :stab: contest, and please don't take it that way.
You got a sweet, impressive truck.
I just think your statement is a little misleading.

Brad
 
B KIRK said:
Triton, this statement is the reason I replied to this thread.
I had trouble with another manufactures flexplate.
But none with the Suncoast flexplate.
Nor has anybody I know had any trouble with the Suncoast.
I'm sure any aftermarket flexplate could break given the right circumstances.
I felt it was a pretty blank statement about how the centers "can" break out.
None of our trucks are bulletproof.
And please quit mixing the word laminate and coating.
Those are two completely different things.

This is not a :stab: contest, and please don't take it that way.
You got a sweet, impressive truck.
I just think your statement is a little misleading.

Brad
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I hear ya man and I had no intention of causing a problem in someones thread. I only tried to tell what happen to me. Sure, I'll say coating instead of laminate but, it is a correct term. Just not what everyone thinks of when talking about flexplates. If you read the definition... it really doesn't apply to the extra center welded on the plate and applies more to the coating applied to the plate.

Sorry dudes.... not trying to have English class :doh:
 
triton said:
Sure, I'll say coating instead of laminate but, it is a correct term. Just not what everyone thinks of when talking about flexplates. If you read the definition... it really doesn't apply to the extra center welded on the plate and applies more to the coating applied to the plate.
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OK, I give up trying to explain.........

Brad
 
I viewed Tritons flexplate on removal & the gold "cosmoline" type coating that is applied as a paint / rust preventitive was exceptionally thick, like 3 times more so than Ive seen on any suncoast plate. Jeff concluded that this excsesive coating allowed the bolts to work loose, covered the whole deal, & brought suncoast up to speed.
 
turbomatt1 said:
I viewed Tritons flexplate on removal & the gold "cosmoline" type coating that is applied as a paint / rust preventitive was exceptionally thick, like 3 times more so than Ive seen on any suncoast plate. Jeff concluded that this excsesive coating allowed the bolts to work loose, covered the whole deal, & brought suncoast up to speed.
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Matt it doesn't help. People just want to see what they want to see. Thanks though... you're right !
 
I run a suncoast as i have already mentioned, and I can see where a problem could occur if the coating was applied too thick to the flexplate. I dont think Triton is trying to put down suncoasts product, but in his case, he had a problem with his. Mine has been great so far. I think he just had a weird problem with his.

I dont think this discussion should be one of brand loyalty although some are making it that way. ANY companys product can have a problem.

I run a suncoast, and i can see where his problem came from if the coating was too thick, and got worn/melted away. I should have my transmission back out within the next 6 months i hope for a complete built Goerend by then. Ill probably check out my flexplate bolts at that time, and throw some loctite on them just to be safe.

Anyways, my point is, he wasnt bashing the product, just speaking of the problems he had with it.

Eric
 
triton said:
If you happen to be at Indy 07 you may have hear it around the whole track.... it wasn't as pretty sound.
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I remember that day. My truck looked tiny pulling your monster! You have a beautiful truck!

Are you planning on making the trip this year?
 
Luken said:
I remember that day. My truck looked tiny pulling your monster! You have a beautiful truck!

Are you planning on making the trip this year?
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LOL ! Yours may have looked tiny but, mine looked pretty pitiful having to be pull across the grounds :hehe:

Thanks again Luke. Yes, if there is an event this year I hope to make it.
 
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