PPP rules update

These are fair pulls. Not a points pull and not big money. Everyone wants to hook! If you want to come out and have fun this is it. If you want to play with FPP that's ok.
How do you make a fair board happy without enough trucks to fill a class?
 
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JerrodGlover said:
Up here it is now 3.0 Stock driveline rules and I wish it was unlimited. The stock driveline cost more to run than if we would switch over to rockwells and dropboxes.
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that is why we did it...your stuff doesnt break. That is by far the biggest advantage to it. And nothing says you cant run a stock drive train.

Sleddy; we did show up for SDX and we would travel alot more but you have to make it worth it. I do not know what your purses are but let me know if it is good enough to justify travel with 3.79 fuel ( what I paid yesterday) i will be there and there are 6 or 7 other guys that will go to. It takes alot to justify travel when all summer (26 hooks) I can go less than 200mi for $2600 purse that pays down 8 spots*bdh*
 
JerrodGlover said:
Up here it is now 3.0 Stock driveline rules and I wish it was unlimited. The stock driveline cost more to run than if we would switch over to rockwells and dropboxes.
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Yea but then you couldn't be gouged by the diesel performance shops! I think 2008 will be a challenging year for truck pulling, with the economy in the tank, and diesel at $4.00/ gallon. Gonna take lots of coin to make it to events, and lots of the truck pulling funds come from overtime.
 
Why dont the clubs make it your choice, the way i see it the big drive line doesn't make the truck go any farther down the track than stock drivetrain does, but it is an insurance policy not to break drive line parts or worse a rod hanging out the side of the block. Who was the guy from Ky at Scheid in the 2.8 class that (dont quote me on this broke a rear or trans) junked a motor bet he would have liked big drivetrain. Back here the East Coast Pulling Series (ECS) we made it the pullers choice wether or not to run stock or unlimited drivetrain, if you have the money put the big stuff in do it if you don't then run OEM
 
Bill,
I know!! Thats a main reason why it doesn't make sense to have that class!!
Even if the purse is $200 more per position than ITPA, you just can't compete with hooks in a guys back yard.

Our purses will be very generous, but I dont see it paying off with fuel this high to drive two states.

You have to be independently wealthy to travel, or have a sponsor, no doubt.

We are working on a REALLY good hook that is relatively close to Illinois, that will be member invitational only, stay tuned.
 
Roughly an hour east on 70-and thats all Im saying about that.:welcome:
 
mech2161 said:
These are fair pulls. Not a points pull and not big money. Everyone wants to hook! If you want to come out and have fun this is it. If you want to play with FPP that's ok.
How do you make a fair board happy without enough trucks to fill a class?
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Easy! Align yourself with the EXISTING 2.6" classes (FPP/NADM/DHRA) and if they don't want hanging weight, cut that out, leave everything else the same.

I guess they're actually doing that with these rules. The only thing that the "inclusion" of bigger trucks is going to cause is argument between the pullers. So if everyone behaves, this might actually work, but I don't see it being adopted many other places. A bit too complicated for the tech resources, don't you think?

If they can't tech turbos in the first place, how they gonna manage adjusting the hitches and weight to suit?

Sounds like a cluster but I'll reserve judgement until we see how it goes.
 
Sledpuller said:
Bill,
I know!! Thats a main reason why it doesn't make sense to have that class!!
Even if the purse is $200 more per position than ITPA, you just can't compete with hooks in a guys back yard.

Our purses will be very generous, but I dont see it paying off with fuel this high to drive two states.

You have to be independently wealthy to travel, or have a sponsor, no doubt.

We are working on a REALLY good hook that is relatively close to Illinois, that will be member invitational only, stay tuned.
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Keep me posted
 
Mat the rules are not set in stone. If they need adjusted they will. They are trying to accommodate as many pullers as possible. Like you said about PS, not enough hooks.
As far as tech maybe you need to remember how things were with FPP? You know you can't make everyone happy.
 
I would allow the stockers to run 8500lbs, then force the 2.6 and bigger guys to 8k
 
zstroken said:
I would allow the stockers to run 8500lbs, then force the 2.6 and bigger guys to 8k
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True, but having no FHW means you'll have say 1.4k in the bed and I'm not sure that will work out. Street stock guys rarely have that much ballast anyway.

Well Kev I agree with you but the trucks we were running with were all pretty square with the exception of one. Now, you're going to have every truck needing to be teched differently, and it's gonna be complicated.

Plus, no one has said anything about the 2.8 trucks needing safety equipment, which they should have. Even some of the 2.6 should have some equipment.

Technically I agree with the compromise they're trying to work out, I'm just saying if the tech is bad now, this is only going to make things worse. Think about it, every truck will need an inducer measurement because the truck setup all runs off that. So EVERYBODY pull your intakes and get measured THEN we can figure out where your hitch is, what your weight is, etc.

Or maybe they could do the "tech the money" thing and watch people get thrown out constantly, because I bet that's what would happen. Lots of drama!
 
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The 2.8 trucks will have all safety equipment! 2.6 will have shields on visible u-joints. Safety was talked about and will be enforced.
 
nwpadmax said:
True, but having no FHW means you'll have say 1.4k in the bed and I'm not sure that will work out. Street stock guys rarely have that much ballast anyway.

Well Kev I agree with you but the trucks we were running with were all pretty square with the exception of one. Now, you're going to have every truck needing to be teched differently, and it's gonna be complicated.

Plus, no one has said anything about the 2.8 trucks needing safety equipment, which they should have. Even some of the 2.6 should have some equipment.

Technically I agree with the compromise they're trying to work out, I'm just saying if the tech is bad now, this is only going to make things worse. Think about it, every truck will need an inducer measurement because the truck setup all runs off that. So EVERYBODY pull your intakes and get measured THEN we can figure out where your hitch is, what your weight is, etc.

Or maybe they could do the "tech the money" thing and watch people get thrown out constantly, because I bet that's what would happen. Lots of drama!
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I would allow 8000 to hang weights, the 8500 is for the duallys that come in off the street that are 8300 lbs.
 
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