DrSpeed said:We've got two pulls scheduled this year, and it's going to be in Lynden.
Camotanker said:Bowtied...
For the matter, I used to help the NHRDA at their sledpulling events. In regards to safety, yes of course safety is a factor... however... if you were to compare PNW safety to midwest/east coast safety, we have the basics. Our safety rules and what the market will support is not close to what is being done in the midwest and etc. Very FEW people in our neck of the woods are wiling to add safety cut off switches, fuel cut offs, driveline hoops and etc. I have seen countless events online where these highly modified trucks in other parts of the country have hundreds of trucks show up with the most extreme safety measures which the market can support. At this time, there is no interest in folks doing these mods for one or two sled pulls. There is a lack of venues and sleds in the PNW.
I'm not going to argue the fact, if you think that you and Chris can bring your two man team to our area and provide us with sled pulling... I would welcome both with open arms. Do what we couldn't do.
I HAVE BUSTED MY ASS AT MULTIPLE SLEDPULL EVENTS FOR THE NHRDA HELPING RUN EVENTS AND CORDINATE THEM. TO INCLUDE DR SPEED AND BHANER.
Good night.
Camotanker said:thats news to me.... are they NHRDA?
i talked to randy today... and it seemed business as usual. nothing here.
DrSpeed said:Yep, I agree with Camo. We've busted our balls trying to make this work. I've even attended events with no intentions of pulling...just to try to network and find sled operators.
You east coast guys got it good. There's a huge market out there. It's definitely spread to CA as well...but the PNW, it's just not there. You're not gonna find a daily driver rig (like most of ours) set up with cages, fire suppression, gate valves, fuel shut offs, etc. That's like Hoss driving the Red Rocket to work every day. yeah, it's street legal, but why would you want to? This is our daily driver, and we do this for fun.
We don't have crazy wheel speed like you do...u joint shields and driveshaft hoops (which I have) is a bit overkill. That's like making a kid on a trike wear a Nomex suit and helmet.
You got to have a market, and those with enough coin to have a dedicated rig to pull on the weekends. We can't afford to have a rig that sits all but two days a year to pull...
You all front the cash to hold the events, and we'll go. It's getting a bit tiring right try to make it work without money.
that's all I got approved for....I have to call Jeff Kench still.
Camotanker said:Maybe you missed the FACT.... there is very little interest in the PNW. Most folks out this way are interested in drag racing and drag racing only.
Its easy for you to make an uneducated statement of standardized rules for everybody not knowing what regional markets will, and willNOT support.
You bring a 20 sled pull event season to the Pacific NW and I will invest in doing these mods and I'm sure others will too.
I understand the NHRDA sledpulling is new to most of you... but we have been trying hard for 3 years to make it take off. If someone out there has pixie dust to make it work... then do it. Its easy to Monday night quarterback, i'm just trying to relay the reality of our situation.
RacinDuallie said:Camo,
While I understand there may be limited interest in sled pulling in the Pacific North West, to say it's easy for me to make an uneducated statement on standardization of rules is way off base. :bang
$2000.00 in extra safety equipment? How so? With fabrication skills this can be drastically chopped down from the inflated estimates. Perhaps you never seen a mechanically pumped engine run away? Perhaps you never seen a truck try to shut down that couldn't because of leaking turbo seals continuing to supply oil, thus getting ingested to burn like fuel- keeping the engine from fully shutting down in a crisis. Driveshaft loops with u-joint shielding prevent carnage from the drivetrain under heavy loads induced from sled pulling keep broken parts from hitting innocent spectators and track personell...... Turbo shielding is also easily fabricated...... Cross bolts in the exhaust also is another easily fabricated safety measure...... These are basic safety measures that I suggest.... And with fabrication skills and determination one could meet the nessesary criteria needed for safety for all those attending and participating in a Sled Pull Event.........
Directors do have it tough when it comes to implimenting safety standards- I know the average guy would rather invest in power more than safety devices. Kinda like drag racers investing everything into going faster and building more power- yet ignoring another major system involved in racing- BRAKES!!!!!
While it's true the Drag Racing scene may have taken the drivers seat in the NHRDA- but we have not ruled Sled Pulling out. There is a sled pull in Breakaway coming..... We also are possibly looking at a Sled Pull in the North East- Yes I know there are alot more die hard pullers in this region. But first and foremost to obtain sled pull events there HAS to be support from the pullers as well as support from the sponsors- when sponsors bring in the money for event purses- THE PEOPLE WILL COME.....$.02
Trust me I understand your frustration- Diesel Racing in the North East was virtually non-existant, that changed with determination and dedicated people beating the drums- getting the folks out- contacting sponsors, ect. Look at where we were 5 years ago. This Diesel Motor Sport Trend is gaining steam all across the United States. That doesnt mean it will happen overnight.
A famous quote I live by is : "If you build it, they will come......."
Peace out......
DrSpeed said:You're not gonna find a daily driver rig (like most of ours) set up with cages, fire suppression, gate valves, fuel shut offs, etc.
Sledpuller said:Dr Speed, take no offense, but after reading this post, I think the problem is you and Camo are uneducated in pulling safety.
Take 10 minutes of your time and go read the safety rules for any midwest pulling organization, you may be shocked to find out that cages and fire suppression are not requirements on even the MODIFIED divison, most anywhere.
The rules are largely based around rpm(over 4500) and turbo size, because turbos regulate the power.
Many classes, a $300 blanket, and 1 rear U-joint shield are sufficient. Air shut offs should be on street trucks, as far as I'm concerned, but many dont think so.
You two just made a huge thread of nonsense, because you did not even read the rules, before making your posts.:rules:
chadow427 said:Hey guys, first post here, I was referred by another member. Anyways, I'm located in Central Washington, this past year my buddy and I put on two sled pulls, one in Quincy and one in Royal City, and this year we're going to try for five or six pulls. We're not DHRA or NDHRA certified, just a couple of guys who enjoy pulling. Our sled and operator are awesome, and each class is very competitive. Lenny (DDP) helped sponsor both of them, but most of it was out of pocket.
The two that are fairly set in stone is July 4 in Royal, and October 11-12 in Moses Lake. Any interest?
chadow427 said:Hey guys, first post here, I was referred by another member. Anyways, I'm located in Central Washington, this past year my buddy and I put on two sled pulls, one in Quincy and one in Royal City, and this year we're going to try for five or six pulls. We're not DHRA or NDHRA certified, just a couple of guys who enjoy pulling. Our sled and operator are awesome, and each class is very competitive. Lenny (DDP) helped sponsor both of them, but most of it was out of pocket.
The two that are fairly set in stone is July 4 in Royal, and October 11-12 in Moses Lake. Any interest?
chadow427 said:Ok, what we've got so far: July 4 in Royal City, October 11-12 in Moses Lake, tentatively one in Moses in late february, not sure yet. I've got the rules here in Word, but I don't know how to post them. It's posted on NWdiesels.com though. http://www.nwdiesels.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6182