Tips for replacing ball joints

For your sake, I hope it works out. I used them the first time.

Time will tell... in with that there will be the third gen track bar, already new shocks, and third gen steering linkage. My hope is that by tightening up the front end it will keep the truck from beating up on the ball joints as bad. If not, I changed them once, I can do it again... or pay somebody for the next time, lol.
 
The problem with the ball joints on these trucks is the lower ball joint takes about 90% of the beating, the top is just kinda there. Pre 99' were not like this, and 03 up is not like this. Just 99-02's, which is why you cannot find the nice super heavy duty units that are able to be rebuilt for them. In short, no matter what joint you put in, it's not going to last forever, or even as long as it should.
 
The problem with the ball joints on these trucks is the lower ball joint takes about 90% of the beating, the top is just kinda there. Pre 99' were not like this, and 03 up is not like this. Just 99-02's, which is why you cannot find the nice super heavy duty units that are able to be rebuilt for them. In short, no matter what joint you put in, it's not going to last forever, or even as long as it should.

There's a company that makes a very stout piece that works very well, let me find the name.

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Yeah the ones I'm thinking of were a 3 letter company, like "XRF" or something like that. I'll get the name from my buddy when he wakes up. We just did them a few months ago, he should remember.
 
The problem with the ball joints on these trucks is the lower ball joint takes about 90% of the beating, the top is just kinda there. Pre 99' were not like this, and 03 up is not like this. Just 99-02's, which is why you cannot find the nice super heavy duty units that are able to be rebuilt for them. In short, no matter what joint you put in, it's not going to last forever, or even as long as it should.

Are you talking about the change from relocating the ball joints from the knuckle to the housing? 2000?
 
Yeah the ones I'm thinking of were a 3 letter company, like "XRF" or something like that. I'll get the name from my buddy when he wakes up. We just did them a few months ago, he should remember.

Pretty sure it is XRF.

I put a set of spicers back in, but these were my second choice.
 
The problem with the ball joints on these trucks is the lower ball joint takes about 90% of the beating, the top is just kinda there. Pre 99' were not like this, and 03 up is not like this. Just 99-02's, which is why you cannot find the nice super heavy duty units that are able to be rebuilt for them. In short, no matter what joint you put in, it's not going to last forever, or even as long as it should.

An interesting read to go along with what you said... so for me and my 2001 it sounds like any choice will likely end the same.

Dodge Ram 2000-2002 Dana 60 Front Axles
Ball Joint failures on 2000-2002 Ram Trucks is a reoccurring problem that will probably plague these trucks for their entire life due to the size of the Ball Joints and the steering geometry of the 2000-2002 Dana 60 Front axle.
The Upper and Lower Ball Joints on these axles are at different angles, in other words the vertical axis of the Upper and Lower Ball Joints are neither in-line or parallel to each other. To compensate for the different arcs of each Ball Joint during turns, the modest sized, straight shank, .855" diameter stud of the greaseable Upper Ball Joint is vertically floating in a plastic sleeve. Consequently, the Upper Ball Joint does not support any weight, it merely keeps the knuckle in place. On these axles, the Upper Ball Joint is not really a Ball Joint at all, instead it is a floating King Pin that is smaller in diameter then King Pins found on 1966-1981 Ford F100 4x2 1/2 ton trucks and light 3/4 ton trucks with GVW's of 4,700 lbs-6,900 lbs.

The non-greaseable Lower Ball Joint is load bearing, in fact, the two Lower Ball Joints carry 100% of the front axle weight on your 2000-2002 Dodge Ram 2500 or 3500 truck. Dimensionally, the outside diameter of the Lower Ball Joint is only 3.5% larger than the Ball Joints used on 1972-1986 Jeep CJ's (and other light-duty models of that era) which has somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of the front axle weight of the Dodge Ram, plus both the Upper and Lower Ball Joints on the CJ are load bearing. In addition, the Ball Joints used on older models like the Jeep CJ and 1994-1999 Dodge Ram 2500 and 3500* shared the same vertical center line axis and were pre-loaded to compensate for wear. With the 2000-2002 front axle steering geometry using differing Ball Joint angles, no preload is possible, therefore, any wear means loose Ball Joints.

Yes, lack of lubrication with the non-greaseable factory lower Ball Joints can be a factor; however, very few of the failed lower Ball Joints we cut apart are suffering from a lack of lubrication. Replacement Ball Joints in both greaseable and non-greaseable versions are available from us, plus there are even offset upper Ball Joints out there (which in my experience is both short-lived and of limited use). Installing Greaseable Ball Joints and regularly greasing them may provide longer service life, but with the 2000-2002 axle, chances are you will still need to replace the Ball Joints every three to five years. One would not mind the relatively short Ball Joint life so much if these trucks steered better than previous models, were not subject to "Death Wobble", or had longer tire life.

I do not find any allowable Ball Joint tolerances in my Factory Dodge Ram Truck Service Manuals. Generally, with a solid axle, any side to side play is grounds for replacement. Some slight vertical play is probably acceptable for these years.

*1994-1999 Dodge Ram trucks with the Dana 60 Front Axle have Lower Ball Joints that are nearly 10% larger than the 2000-2002 axle. Average Ball Joint life for 1994-1999 trucks is close to 150,000 miles or 7 to 10 years. All 4 Ball Joints for those years carry weight and are pre-loaded to compensate for wear and dampen steering shocks.

I still am under the hope that getting a new track bar that isn't a "ball joint" configuration, will keep my axle from wandering around and inducing even more wear on the ball joints. New shocks to keep it planted on the road and new tie rod ends to keep the knuckles from beating things to death... maybe, just maybe I can get a few years out of it.
 
Nevermind that. They only make them for 03 and newer

Yup, I called Garret with PDP about getting a set of the heavy duty Dynatrac units when I went through the front end on my truck earlier this year. When I asked him about why there was not a set listed he basically said WTF and made some calls. 00-02 are the only years they do not make them for.

Are you talking about the change from relocating the ball joints from the knuckle to the housing? 2000?

I couldn't say, I have never been into a front 60 on anything but my truck.

An interesting read to go along with what you said... so for me and my 2001 it sounds like any choice will likely end the same.

Dodge Ram 2000-2002 Dana 60 Front Axles


I still am under the hope that getting a new track bar that isn't a "ball joint" configuration, will keep my axle from wandering around and inducing even more wear on the ball joints. New shocks to keep it planted on the road and new tie rod ends to keep the knuckles from beating things to death... maybe, just maybe I can get a few years out of it.


It has to help, and I think some good shocks will help too, anything to let the front axle move more and transfer energy to the suspension rather than taking the brunt of a bump.
 
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