ok tried a used pump in "working condition" still not starting. getting what i would consider good fuel out of #6 again and #1. none to speak of out of any other. no DTC in computer except p1693. any ideas? pump from chip fisher on the way. if the new pump does not work... i may light the pos on fire.
06-23-2012, 05:24 AM
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chris,
hello, i recieved my parts yesterday. the exhaust manifold looks good. the vp 44 was full of some yellowish liquid that had leeked through the bag and box. ups was complaining. do you by chance know what this was? i tryed draining all that i could out of the pump. but the electronics were soaked. whatever was in there, it was alot. i ask this because ive installed the pump and it does not work. before i run any of chip fishers tests i wanted to get a hold of you to see what you know. at this point i would like to talk to you directly. things sometime get lost in text. but as i remember, this pump was sold as a working pump. not a core. thankyou.
06-23-2012, 07:15 AM
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That would be fuel in the pump and you arent going to tell me that it doesnt work because I pulled it off a running engine the day it shipped out of here. The electronics can be soaked all they want and it will still run.[/QUOTE]
ok, it did not smell like fuel. im just telling you what i know. no need to become defensive, if in fact you are. im just saying the pump is not working. im no expert here. im just looking for some good honest answers. you have been very helpful, and im in no way trying to discredit your business. if you say in fact that this pump is fine then i have to take your word. im just trying to get my truck to run.
i only have good fuel to #1 injector. the others are just dripping.(lift pump pressure) drained my batteries trying to get it primed. i dont know.... what does it sound like to you?
06-23-2012, 08:18 AM
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Im not sure as Im not installing it. You could have crushed the key, you could have a bad lift pump, your batteries sound like they are junk, you may have electrical issues with your truck, you could have loose fuel lines, you could be out of fuel in the tank, etc etc. this is why experience is useful during installs. All this and Im just assuming you used the original key on the pump shaft....if not that would be my first guess as to why it isnt starting.[/QUOTE]
key is not crushed, lift pump is supplying 17psi to injection pump. verified by mechanical gauge,and by visually watching it fill up a coffee can by just bumping the starter. batteries are newer, and any battery will go to crap after an hour or so of repeatedly cranking after starter cools down. no loose lines, fuel in tank. i used the key that was on the pump you sent me. im not a diesel mechanic by trade, but im not a complete moron either. the only thing i dont know of yet is if electrical could be a problem.
i will be removing the buss wiring and hotwiring the pump to eliminate that possibility. but before any of those tests needed to be done, i thought i would ask the guy who sold me the pump to see what he may have known about it first.
this pump just does not work. i would like to try and resolve this. the pump was full of old fuel. good diesel does not smell like varnish,or look yellow in color. unless you put old diesel in the truck. this pump has been sitting for sometime with bad fuel in it. if your so sure this pump is in good working order, then i see no reason why you wouldnt buy this back and stand behind your website's "we strive to deliver 100% customer satisfaction on every single transaction." nothing i have done during installation or removel has changed this pumps condition from when i recieved it. except its been cleaned up. what im proposing would be sending the pump back and getting my $500 back.
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CSnyder said:
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That would be fuel in the pump and you arent going to tell me that it doesnt work because I pulled it off a running engine the day it shipped out of here. The electronics can be soaked all they want and it will still run.
this pump just does not work. i would like to try and resolve this. the pump was full of old fuel. good diesel does not smell like varnish,or look yellow in color. unless you put old diesel in the truck. this pump has been sitting for sometime with bad fuel in it. if your so sure this pump is in good working order, then i see no reason why you wouldnt buy this back and stand behind your website's "we strive to deliver 100% customer satisfaction on every single transaction." nothing i have done during installation or removel has changed this pumps condition from when i recieved it. except its been cleaned up. what im proposing would be sending the pump back and getting my $500 back.
the oldest the fuel could have been was from December when the truck came here for the p-pump swap. It has been start and run several times since then and like I said I pulled it into the shop the day it shipped out. I imagine the varnish smell you are smelling could be the difference between winter fuel with additive and summer fuel. I can either exchange it up for the other pump listed for the additional price or refund if it is returned and it is the same pump I shipped. Not saying you are not trustworthy but Ive shipped parts before and had claims they were junk but when returned it wasnt the same part I shipped out. We carefully place a mark on items shipped and document it. Its your call. Im very easy to get along with. I can also do a video of this other truck running before I ship that one if thats what you want to do. Let me know. Chris
the pump will ship out tomorrow. unfortunely im going to go ahead and get one of chip fishers pumps. my truck has not run now with two different used pumps and i need to get one that i know for sure works. truck has codes that would imply that the pumps are not working. trust me i would much rather save my money on a used pump and have the truck working again. but at this point i dont know what else to do. i would be interested in knowing if you are successful getting the pump i return to you working. again i thank you for all the help/trouble you have gone through.
You told me in PM's that after you installed my good used pump that it had codes for a bad VP but in this thread you said nothing of VP codes.
You also told me via PM that it was only getting fuel out of number1 but here you say 1 & 6?
You made mention of hotwiring the pump also and there is a good chance you fried the electronics now. How would you like to handle this? Thats twice you lied to me on this deal and I know damn well it ran when removed the day it shipped to you. Sounds like a case of buyer remorse to me.
