Will 2.8" Stay Around For Years To Come?

Will 2.8" Stay Around For Years To Come?

  • YES

    Votes: 39 50.6%

  • NO

    Votes: 38 49.4%
  • Total voters
    77
lightsOUT said:
what about:

ws= factory charger, no hanging weight, some kind of suspension travel weather it be 1" or 2"

2.8= true 2.8, no bushing, factory fuel tank mounting, must be inspected, hang weight, solid blocked suspension

SS= unlimited single, open drive line

mod= like it is now

There needs to be more speration of the classes. this year at scheid it was 30 SS trucks and 150 almost SS trucks. and 10 triple chargered tube chassis.
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ok so what about the guys who already have fuel tanks in different locations. what class do they go in? when you say true, is a s400 with a 2.8 cover a true 2.8 charger? Or are you just saying no bushing?
 
teddybear said:
I could go for that too. But dont agree with the 1-2" travel rule in Workstock.
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i agree in the aspect that i like pulling my truck ALOT more when its solid. but... that will help create the gap. Again, IMO it will make the trucks noticeablly different from class to class.
 
Fine Finish said:
He probley means 2.6 covers. I agree, this 2.6 class is getting crazy. Im guilty if the s400 w/ 2.6 cover. But why would i not do it? The rules allow it. But all we are doing is discouraging people to pull in the 2.6 class unless they have a killer set up. I would jump to 2.8, so i think the 2.6 class needs to be fixed. Let them run an off the shelf 66mm charger and let the rest of us who dont want to go back to that jump to 2.8. i hope it doesnt disapear.
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This guy gets it.
 
Fine Finish said:
ok so what about the guys who already have fuel tanks in different locations. what class do they go in? when you say true, is a s400 with a 2.8 cover a true 2.8 charger? Or are you just saying no bushing?
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basically no bushings.

as far as the fuel tanks... its not that i really believe it adds that much advantage. but i do believe it is a step (all be it however small) towards having a truck that is beyond what the 2.8 class is or should be. again, IMO
 
Well I've been saying in some of the NADM threads that the 2.6 class with it's stepped covers and bushed chargers is getting WAY outta hand.

I agree 100% that the 2.6 class should be a NO BUSHING, NO STEPPED COVER 2.6" off the shelf charger. This would give the "Hot Street" guys a class to run in, as well as the nastier (IE: NON Street Truck!) 2.8 trucks could stay around in their current form.

I compete in the 2.6 class currently with a TRUE 2.6" charger and I do that because I still street drive my truck... To be competitive in the 2.6" class as it is now I'd have to go to a bushed or stepped cover S400, there goes my streetability.

I'd go pull with the WS guys.... But then they'd be all pissed and discouraged.. Just like I am with the 2.6" class right now.

The next poll somebody should fire up should be "Bushings and Stepped Covers in the 2.6 Class or not?"

Heck! I may just go do that!
 
Convicted1 said:
Well I've been saying in some of the NADM threads that the 2.6 class with it's stepped covers and bushed chargers is getting WAY outta hand.

I agree 100% that the 2.6 class should be a NO BUSHING, NO STEPPED COVER 2.6" off the shelf charger. This would give the "Hot Street" guys a class to run in, as well as the nastier (IE: NON Street Truck!) 2.8 trucks could stay around in their current form.

I compete in the 2.6 class currently with a TRUE 2.6" charger and I do that because I still street drive my truck... To be competitive in the 2.6" class as it is now I'd have to go to a bushed or stepped cover S400, there goes my streetability.

I'd go pull with the WS guys.... But then they'd be all pissed and discouraged.. Just like I am with the 2.6" class right now.

The next poll somebody should fire up should be "Bushings and Stepped Covers in the 2.6 Class or not?"

Heck! I may just go do that!
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Where does this notion that a S400 is unstreetable come from? I can and some times do drive around with a 3" charger. With a good tune up it is not bad at all. I know of and auto trans CR Dodge that street drives everyday with an S400.

Everybodies idea of streetable is different. Yoy can outlaw stepped cover and bushing it will accomplish nothing. All that needs done then is to recontour the inducer of the wheel. Some time on a CNC lathe and your good to go.

To really have an effective turbo limit you need to limit the exducer of the comp wheel. This inducer stuff is just a bandaid. The trouble is getting the exducer teched. Most organzations have a hard enough time just plug checking a cover.$.02
 
Make the 2.6 class an actual 2.6 class and the 2.8 class would be probably the most exciting class to watch. And be loaded with MANY trucks.
 
You can DD a 12v with an S400...right now I'm DD a 2.8" charger with a tight converter, and it's not too bad. With a 5spd, lower gears, and a functioning AFC, (you know, like most pullers have) I could definitely see driving an S400 on just about anything.

Now towing would be another story, but there again, it could be done!
Chris
 
like 2tone 12v said make the 2.6 class a true 2.6 turbo class and the 2.8 class will soon enough pop back around, in ohio if you build a nice mild 2.8 truck you could win every pull around here, where as our top 5 2.6 trucks are all bumping up and beating some 2.8 and 3.0 trucks....? gay, doesnt say much for our 2.8 and 3.0 class but still if you have a 2.6 truck beating a 3.0 truck then there is alot wrong.. .lol
 
2Tone12V said:
Make the 2.6 class an actual 2.6 class and the 2.8 class would be probably the most exciting class to watch. And be loaded with MANY trucks.
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Anthony arent you a representative for nadm sled pulling? How do they feel about the 2 classes?
 
there's not a definition of a "true" 2.6 charger... gonna have to find some other way to limit the class or let it be what it is and let the 2.8 class evolve into the 3.0 big driveline class because the hot 2.8 trucks have to detune in order to keep from busting their drivelines as it is. Let the 2.6 stay the way it is because it's about the best, most competitive class around. Evidently it's affordable enough because there are LOTS of them. And thsoe complaining about not being able to drive their street truck to the pull and be competitve in the 2.6 class need to get over it. It is NOT a class where any street driven truck will be able to be at the top of the class no matter how the rules read or what the intent of the class is. The top trucks will most likely always be dedicated pulling trucks, period. That's even the case, for the most part, with the stock turbo WS class too.


That's my take. Keep 2.6 as-is and switch the 2.8 class to big driveline and 3.0+ single charger.



C-ya
 
WELL I think they need to do away with the 2.6 street name and call it 2.6 limited or something you get guys of the street that come in and think they should be able to compete becuase its a street class... lets rename the classes, just to put a exclamation point on the fact that this is now a sport not just a hobbie or a fairgrounds local event. its evolved so much in the past 3 years its crazy, you cant honeslty have a true street truck winning in the 2.6 class.
 
i think there shouldnt be a 2.6 maybee drop it to a 2.5 or 2.4 class to help weed some out and make a better show and more people want to compete
 
outlaw99 said:
like 2tone 12v said make the 2.6 class a true 2.6 turbo class and the 2.8 class will soon enough pop back around, in ohio if you build a nice mild 2.8 truck you could win every pull around here, where as our top 5 2.6 trucks are all bumping up and beating some 2.8 and 3.0 trucks....? gay, doesnt say much for our 2.8 and 3.0 class but still if you have a 2.6 truck beating a 3.0 truck then there is alot wrong.. .lol
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Never have I seen a 2.6 truck come close to beating a dedicated 3.0 truck. But no 2.6 truck should be able to compete in the 2.8 which does happen.
 
DarrenKrueger said:
Anthony arent you a representative for nadm sled pulling? How do they feel about the 2 classes?
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Nope. Cause if I was I would be pushing for that 2.6 change for sure. And water would NEVER even be considered for 2.6. I would however let the 2.8 class run it, as well as run bushings. I think that would make the 2.8 very popular. Common rails would be coming out like crazy for it and making the class huge.
 
If 2.8 does go away 3/4 of them are going to drop down to 2.6. Everyone was sure upset that 3 guys did it at scheid wait until the top 20 2.6 trucks are old 2.8 trucks. Its not gonna look like such a good idea then
 
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Why not have a fixed 2.6 charger? Everybody has to run the same charger from a certain few shops that are org approved. 1 fixed compressor cover, inducer, exducer, all that crap. Just 1, let the exhaust be up to that particular engine so that the compressor acts as a restrictor plate.
 
NO I mean 2.6 limited... you have never been in cotpc then becasue there are a few trucks in 2.6 that hang or beat a couple 3.0 trucks around here, still dont believe me please feel free to go to cotpc and look at who won the points this year, granted it is only points but I know there isnt a chance in hell that a 2.6 truck should even compete against a 3.0 truck.

why would common rails come out like crazy for a 2.8 class?
 
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